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Pte Frederick Milner 1/6th North Staffs

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Recently given a copy of the Memorial book of the London and North Western Railway showing names of all employees who were KIA, with a copy given to the family of every man deceased. Each was individually dedicated on the frontispiece to an individual employee in this case Frederick Milner who was a porter at Lichfield Trent Valley station. He died along with so many in the 1/6th North Staffs in the abortive diversionary attack on Gommecourt Wood 1/7/1916.

 

But interested that his army number is 2946 whilst most of his companions all have numbers in the 24000,s. Whats the significance of this, ?pre-war territorial or similar?

 

Any information welcome regards SG

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hi SG

I reckon this is him. I'll see what else I can find.

regards

Jon

 

First name(s) Frederick
Last name Milner
Service number 2946
Rank Private
Regiment Prince Of Wales's (North Staffordshire Regiment)
Battalion 1/6th Battalion.
Birth place -
Residence -
Enlistment place Lichfield, Staffs
Death year 1916
Death day 1
Death month 7
Cause of death Killed in action
Death place France & Flanders
Theatre of war Western European Theatre
Supplementary Notes -
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

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medal roll indicates arrival in France 5/3/15

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from forceswarrecords

First Name: Frederick
Initials: F
Surname: Milner
DOB: Circa 1894
Age: 22
Resided Town: Lichfield, Staffordshire.
Nationality: British
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Fate: Killed in Action
Information: Parent: John Milner, of 65, Tamworth St., Lichfield, Staffs.
Rank: Private
Service Number: 2946
Duty Location: France And Flanders

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

23 Greehill Lichfield Staffordshire, Lichfield St Michael, Staffordshire, England

Frederick Milner Son Single Male Porter Local Railway Company 17 1894 Stafford Lichfield

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I believe 2946 refers to his original service number.

 

His comrades have six digits numbers as territorial units were renumbered in 1917.

 

The 1/6 Battalion NSR were allocated numbers 240,001 - 265,000

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Looking at near numbers in the Silver War Badge records, it appears he enlisted in September 1914:

2938  05.09.14

2944  28.09.14

2949  08.09.14

2950  28.09.14

 

2574 Territorial (time-expired) Frederick Chesterfield enlisted on 1st September 1914 and was given at some point the six-figure number 240489 (similar to the companions you mention) - he was killed on 01.07.16.

 

Mike

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An article on his death in the Lichfield Mercury dated 28th July 1916

 

"Mr J Milner, 23, Greenhill, Lichfield has received an official intimation that his son, Pte F Milner of the North Staffordshire Regiment was killed in action on July 1st. No further details as to how he met his death have as yet been received. Pte Milner was for five years a porter at the Lichfield City Station, but when war broke out, he was employed at Rhyl as a ticket collector. He enlisted six months after the outbreak of war and was wounded last October. He went out to the front again in March."

 

It could be that he was wounded at Loos in October 1915. The 46th North Midland Division were hit hard on the 13th October.

 

As for the article stating he enlisted six months after the outbreak of war. This is confusing as the number 2946 would indicate an enlistment of September 1914.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, naught91 said:

An article on his death in the Lichfield Mercury dated 28th July 1916

 

"Mr J Milner, 23, Greenhill, Lichfield has received an official intimation that his son, Pte F Milner of the North Staffordshire Regiment was killed in action on July 1st. No further details as to how he met his death have as yet been received. Pte Milner was for five years a porter at the Lichfield City Station, but when war broke out, he was employed at Rhyl as a ticket collector. He enlisted six months after the outbreak of war and was wounded last October. He went out to the front again in March."

 

It could be that he was wounded at Loos in October 1915. The 46th North Midland Division were hit hard on the 13th October.

 

As for the article stating he enlisted six months after the outbreak of war. This is confusing as the number 2946 would indicate can enlistment of September 1914.

 

 

 

He may have attested in September and been posted/mobilised six months later. Enlistment in the SWB records can mean either.

Mike

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Thanks very much Pals really fills in the story. Hopefully shall stop and have a glance at 65 Tamworth Rd next time in Lichfield.

regards SG

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