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Honora

2/5 Glosters

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Dear All

 

Quick question. I hope for ancestry.co.uk specialists - I cant find the war diary for 2/5 Gloucester Regiment - do I gather its one of those that has not yet made it on to the site?

 

does any one know of who they were fighting with, I might be able to 'piggyback' on a 'sister battalion'.

 

 I'm interested in the end of August 1917, for a man by the name of Herbert Stone,  KIA 27 Aug 1917 and commemorated on the Tyne Cot Memorial.

I have just discovered a reference to  A F Barnes'  book, Story of the 2/5 Battalion the Gloucestershire Regiment

 

Thanks

 

Honora 

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ID: 2   Posted (edited)

2/5th Gloucesters were in 184 Bde in 61st Division. Other Bns in the Bde were 2/4th Ox & Bucks LI, 2/1st Ox & Bucks LI, and 2/4th Berkshires.  The 2/4th and 2/6th Bns of the Gloucesters were in the same Div (in 163 Bde).

 

Rather annoyingly the 2/5th don't get a mention in the history of the Regiment by Everard Wyrall.

Edited by Gareth Davies

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Hi Honora,

 

Your man is not mentioned in the diary. They were in the line on the 27th at Poperinghe..

27th Aug 1917...

'' reorganisation of Coys and training. 50 emergency stretcher bearers sent up line. 3 killed 2 wounded. ''

 

Doesn't say wether the 3 men killed were part of the party sent forward.

 

Simon.

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Dear Gareth, Terry, and Simon

 

Many thanks for your replies - I now have something to go on.

 

Interesting that Wyrall doesn't mention them  - did he consider it  a 'not important unit of conscripted men? or ...' 

 

The local library has a reference copy of the Barnes book so I'll try to get into town and then download the TNA - although I think you have given me all I need to know  Simon - just wonder if he was one of the those three killed? 

 

I realise ORs were rarely mentioned in War Diaries, but I have been very lucky on one or two occasions when privates were mentioned by name. 

 

Honora

 

 

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ID: 6   Posted (edited)

Hi Honora,

 

5 hours ago, Honora said:

Quick question. I hope for ancestry.co.uk specialists - I cant find the war diary for 2/5 Gloucester Regiment - do I gather its one of those that has not yet made it on to the site?

 

On Ancestry the diary appears to start here

 

Regards

Chris

 

Edit: You may well get more contextual info from the Brigade HQ and Division HQ (General Staff) diaries which will also be on Ancestry

Edited by clk

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Dear Chris

 

Many thanks for this - this gives me some background for the weeks up to his death and to where he died.

 

As Simon says above;   Your man is not mentioned in the diary. They were in the line on the 27th at Poperinghe..

27th Aug 1917...

'' reorganisation of Coys and training. 50 emergency stretcher bearers sent up line. 3 killed 2 wounded. ''

Doesn't say whether the 3 men killed were part of the party sent forward.

 

I can only wonder whether he was one of the three? 

 

Ivor Gurney was of course another casualty from this battalion:  'a Common Private makes but little show'  Ivor Gourny's preface to 'Severn and Somme'  published 1917.

 

Thanks again

Honora

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Just a little more - formerly served 4th Bn Wiltshire service no. 202723

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