RogerShephard, on 30 April 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:
Just had a quick look at what i have written up on the Kiwis at Dantzig cemetery.
The following artillery guys were transfered here from Fricourt Wood Cemetery, this cemetery no longer exists.
grave III.J.7. died 9/10/16 same day as Wright. he was from 5Bty 2Bde.
TURNER, EUSTACE HENRY HADDON
grave III.F.1 died 11/10/16 Turner was 4th Reinforcements like your uncle. and like Wreford-Reed from 5Bty 2Bde. Turner served at Gallipoli, so it may work out your uncle was a Gallipoli Vet as well.
- both sailed on the same ship to France.
- turners serial number is 2/1211 close to your uncles and i see both enlisted in the Waikato.
It may be a long shot, but it could be that your uncle and Wreford-Reed were killed together, it would be a pretty good guess that your uncle knew both men and that he probably served together with Turner.
It will be interesting to see what his military files show... i hope he is 5Bty 2Bde it would parcel it all up very nicely and give you a good but of cross reference between the three of them and what their military files say.
There is a fourth man in the Dantzig Alley Cemetery that I believe was involved:-
GARTH, SAMUEL EDWARD grave III.J.10 died 12/10/16 Driver 2/1291A New Zealand Field Artillery. Was he 5Bty 2Bde too?
I was thinking 2 killed outright and 2 from wounds.
Thank you for the 5Bty 2Bde info. This is new to me and very useful in following the description of events.
Looking at the CWGC site I see the following Cemeteries were consolidated at Dantzig Alley:-
AEROPLANE CEMETERY, FRICOURT, on the old German front line to the south of Fricourt village. It contained the graves of 24 N.C.Os. and men of the 20th Manchesters who died on 1 July 1916.
BOTTOM WOOD CEMETERY, FRICOURT, on the south edge of a small wood between Mametz and Fricourt Woods. This was a field ambulance station for some months from July 1916, and the cemetery contained 104 graves.
BULGAR ALLEY CEMETERY, MAMETZ, 230 metres east of the village, named from a trench. It contained the graves of 24 soldiers who died on 1 July 1916, and all but one of whom belonged to the 22nd Manchesters.
HARE LANE CEMETERY, FRICOURT, at the north-west corner of the village, named from a trench. It contained the graves of 54 soldiers who died on 1 and 2 July 1916, and of whom 49 belonged to the 10th West Yorks.
MAMETZ GERMAN CEMETERY, in which 12 soldiers were buried by their comrades in July and August 1916. This cemetery was near the crossing of the Fricourt-Maricourt and Mametz-Bray roads.
MANSEL COPSE CEMETERY, MAMETZ, on the Fricourt-Maricourt road, near the present Devonshire Cemetery: and MANSEL COPSE WEST CEMETERY, MAMETZ, 460 metres further west. These contained the graves of 51 men of the 2nd Border Regiment, who died on 1 July 1916.
MONTAUBAN ROAD CEMETERY, CARNOY, which contained the graves of 25 soldiers (almost all of the 18th Division) who died on 1 July 1916.
VERNON STREET CEMETERY, CARNOY, in the valley between Carnoy and Maricourt, at a place called "Squeak Forward Position". 110 soldiers who died in July-October 1916 were buried here by the 21st Infantry Brigade and other units.
Bottom Wood Cemetery, Fricourt is certainly there and used from July 1916 onwards. The plot thickens!
Thanks very much for your interest. - Dennis