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liverpool Annie wrote:  

Charles Grant Francis Grey Birch Capt South Lancashire Regiment only son of Colonel Birch of Lympston Grange, S. Devon.

Unfortunately my Rugby School registers only go back to 1892 and he evidentally left the school before then, but here is the information about him from The "Last Post:"

Capt Charles Francis Grey Birch
Born in Nov 1866, the son of Colonel Birch of Lympstone Grange, South Devon, late OC, 4th Bn, N Lanc Regiment.
Educated at Rugby School
Commissioned in the 4th Bn, N Lanc Regt
Transferred to the S Lanc Regt in Dec 1888
Promoted to Lieut. in May 1890
Promoted to Capt in Apr 1898
Killed in action at Spion Kop on 24 Jan 1900 while trying to rescue a wounded soldier
A memorial cross was erected over his grave near Spion Kop

Regards.  Dick Flory

[liverpool annie]

liverpool Annie wrote: 

Unfortunately my Rugby School registers only go back to 1892 and he evidentally left the school before then, but here is the information about him from The "Last Post:"

Capt Charles Francis Grey Birch
Born in Nov 1866, the son of Colonel Birch of Lympstone Grange, South Devon, late OC, 4th Bn, N Lanc Regiment.
Educated at Rugby School
Commissioned in the 4th Bn, N Lanc Regt
Transferred to the S Lanc Regt in Dec 1888
Promoted to Lieut. in May 1890
Promoted to Capt in Apr 1898
Killed in action at Spion Kop on 24 Jan 1900 while trying to rescue a wounded soldier
A memorial cross was erected over his grave near Spion Kop

Regards.  Dick Flory

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Hi Dick!

Thank you very much for that that's great!
Annie

[liverpool annie]

Hi Dick!

Thank you very much for that that's great!
Annie

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Hi Dick

I know you asked for the school but I can't find anything on this young officer - is there any way
you could look him up for me please??

This is all I have - and as the South Lancs regiment comes from Warrington and Preston I've looked there and too ! - but I can't find the 1871 1881 1891 census or birth or anything I'd appreciate anything else you might find!!

Thanking you in advance

Annie

LYNCH - Captain Nicholas Marcus - 1/South Lancashire Regt.
Died of enteric at Mooi River. 13th Nov. 1900. Aged 32. Born April 1868.

[rflory]

Liverpool Annie wrote:

LYNCH - Captain Nicholas Marcus - 1/South Lancashire Regt.
Died of enteric at Mooi River. 13th Nov. 1900. Aged 32. Born April 1868.

Capt. Nicholas Marcus Lynch, S Lancs Regt.
Born in April 1868
Commissioned into the S Lancs Regt in Sept 1887
Promoted to Lieut in Apr 1889
Served with Gold Coast Constabulary from May 1892 to Dec 1893
Promoted to Captain in Aug 1894
Served with West African Frontier Police Force from March 1898 to Nov 1899
Proceeded to South Africa in Nov 1899 and served with the 1st Battalion, taking part in the fighting on the Tugela and in the relief of Ladysmith
Died of enteric at Mooi River on 13 Nov 1900.

Regards.  Dick

[liverpool annie]

Liverpool Annie wrote:

Capt. Nicholas Marcus Lynch, S Lancs Regt.
Born in April 1868
Commissioned into the S Lancs Regt in Sept 1887
Promoted to Lieut in Apr 1889
Served with Gold Coast Constabulary from May 1892 to Dec 1893
Promoted to Captain in Aug 1894
Served with West African Frontier Police Force from March 1898 to Nov 1899
Proceeded to South Africa in Nov 1899 and served with the 1st Battalion, taking part in the fighting on the Tugela and in the relief of Ladysmith
Died of enteric at Mooi River on 13 Nov 1900.

Regards.  Dick

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Dick!

YOU ARE THE MAN !!!!!!!!

Thank you so very much!! - no wonder I couldn't find him!!

I appreciate your help

Annie

[DaveBrigg]

Dick
Is there a picture at all for Percy Alexander Margetts, who attended Batley Grammar School and Leeds University. I have a lot of biographical info, but only one very blurred image.

Also, on another thread, is there a link on your database for Captain Noel Bean RGA, seriously wounded in early 1918 (he was in hospital at the beginning of April). Sorry, I don't have a unit name.
I can give you details of an RFA officer who died in 1918 without seeing service abroad if this fits in with your research.
Many thanks
Dave

[Ed Matthews]

Hello Dick

Might I trouble you for a further look up?  I'd be interested to know whether there are photographs for Lieutenant Geoffrey LAMBTON, Coldstream Guards and Major Charles Arthur TISDALL, Irish Guards in either the British Roll of Honour or The Bond of Sacrifice.  Both men were killed on 1st September 1914.  I have quite a lot of biographical detail but I'm keen to obtain photographs!

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards

Ed

[rflory]

Ed Matthews wrote:

Might I trouble you for a further look up? I'd be interested to know whether there are photographs for Lieutenant Geoffrey LAMBTON, Coldstream Guards and Major Charles Arthur TISDALL, Irish Guards

Photo of Lambton:

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[rflory]

Ed:  Photo of Tisdall:

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[rflory]

DaveBrigg wrote:

Is there a picture at all for Percy Alexander Margetts, who attended Batley Grammar School and Leeds University. I have a lot of biographical info, but only one very blurred image.
Also, on another thread, is there a link on your database for Captain Noel Bean RGA, seriously wounded in early 1918

Dave:  I cannot provide a photo of Margetts.  In regards to Captain Noel Bean, RGA I can tell you the following:  
Commissioned as a 2nd Lieut, No. 3 Company, East Riding, RGA on 3 Jan 1914
Promoted to Lieutenant, RGA TF on 1 June 1916
Appointed as Acting  Captain, RGA TF on 26 March 1917
His papers are available at the National Archives under WO374/4999.

Dick Flory

[liverpool annie]

DaveBrigg wrote:

Dave:  I cannot provide a photo of Margetts.  In regards to Captain Noel Bean, RGA I can tell you the following:   
Commissioned as a 2nd Lieut, No. 3 Company, East Riding, RGA on 3 Jan 1914
Promoted to Lieutenant, RGA TF on 1 June 1916
Appointed as Acting  Captain, RGA TF on 26 March 1917
His papers are available at the National Archives under WO374/4999.

Dick Flory

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Hi Dick!

Could I please ask once more - for information on another officer without school information ?

Lt Kane H R - South Lancs (POWV)
H R Kane Killed in action at Fort Itala, Zululand. 25th Sept. 1901. Aged 23. Born June 1878.

I'd appreciate anything you could give me

Thanking you in advance

Annie

[rflory]

liverpool Annie wrote

H R Kane Killed in action at Fort Itala, Zululand. 25th Sept. 1901. Aged 23. Born June 1878.

Lieut Harold Robert Kane, S Lancs Regt.
Born June 1878
Educated at Elizabeth College, Guernsey
Commissioned into the S Lancs Regt in Sep 1897
Promoted to Lieut in Oct 1899
Served with Natal Field Force and participated in the operations of 17 to 24 Jan 00, 5-7 Feb 00 and 19-27 Feb 00 on Tugela. Wounded on 22 Feb 00. Took part in the actions of Spion Kop and Vaal Kranz and was mentioned in despatches in the London Gazette of 8 Feb 01.
KIA at Fort Italia on 25 Sep 01.

Regards.  Dick Flory

[DaveBrigg]

Many thanks for the information on Captain Bean. I'll try to check his papers. He lost two brothers within a space of months at the start of 1918.
Dave

[liverpool annie]

Many thanks for the information on Captain Bean. I'll try to check his papers. He lost two brothers within a space of months at the start of 1918.
Dave

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Dick!

Thank you for finding my soldiers - I'm thrilled!

I still have about 5 or 6 more .... would you mind looking for me? - I have

very little on them and would appreciate it!

Annie

PS If I can do any genealogy look ups for you - I'd be more than happy!

[rflory]

Annie:  Go ahead and send the names.  Dick

[liverpool annie]

Annie:  Go ahead and send the names.  Dick

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You're a good man Dick!! but I lied there's eight!

Calyon Lt ( later Lt Col ) G S
Goren Capt B R
James Capt E T
Mott 2nd Lt Geoffrey R
Oakley Edward F
Skinner Lt S H
Upperton Cap (later Major ) Stuart
Woods 2nd Lt ( later Lt Col ) Hugh K

I have NO dates for births or deaths - this is it!

Thanks so much for your help!

Annie

[toofatfortakeoff]

Hello Sir I have an entry or two here if youre not too busy

George Robert Marmaduke Stanbury-Taylor
22 years old when dow 30 Sept 1917
res Baysgarth House Barton upon Humber Lincolnshire
St Johns? Cambridge College Member of the Weavers Guild?
Left Uni in 1914 for the army.

2LT Christopher Moor 3rd Hampshires fell at Gallipoli 6th August 1915
23 years old of Barton upon Humber
Pembroke College Cambs. and McGill Univ Montreal
Gave up studies to join on outbreak of War 1914

2Lt Richard Denham Scholfield
Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regt
Fell inaction  Gallipoli 10th August 1915
Law Tripos 1911 St Johns? Cambridge

The information is corredct as I know it
Thanks inb advance if you can help
Seanio

[Ed Matthews]

Hello Dick

Superb!  Thank you once again.

Best wishes

Ed

[liverpool annie]

Hi Dick!

Please don't spend too much time on my soldiers! - they are very evasive and I've been looking for them for some time - so I know they're not easy!

Thanks again

Annie

[Myrtle]

Annie/Dick
There's a mic for a Lt Col Geoffrey Carlyon South Lancs. Reg.
May not be the same man but there is a Geoffrey Carlyon aged 11 in the 1881 census who was at, what sounds like a prep school, called Walton Lodge, New House, Brasted House, Castle Hill, Walton in Gordano, Somerset.
As there was also a pupil of the same name at Charterhouse it may be worth checking the Charterhouse records first.
May not be the same person but it seems worth a try.

However if you are looking for someone earlier, there's a George Carlyon who was 66 years old in 1901 Born at St Blazey, Cornwall and living in Winkfield, Berks who was a retired Colonel. He seems to have had a son called Herbert who was a solicitor.

Myrtle

[liverpool annie]

Annie/Dick
There's a mic for a Lt Col Geoffrey Carlyon South Lancs. Reg.
May not be the same man but there is a Geoffrey Carlyon aged 11 in the 1881 census who was at, what sounds like a prep school, called Walton Lodge, New House, Brasted House, Castle Hill, Walton in Gordano, Somerset.
As there was also a pupil of the same name at Charterhouse it may be worth checking the Charterhouse records first.
May not be the same person but it seems worth a try.

However if you are looking for someone earlier, there's a George Carlyon who was 66 years old in 1901 Born at St Blazey, Cornwall and living in Winkfield, Berks who was a retired Colonel. He seems to have had a son called Herbert who was a solicitor.

Myrtle

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Myrtle!

You are a SAINT! - thank you!!

Annie

Edit - he's the one at Charterhouse!

Charterhouse register 1872-1910


Geoffrey Carlyon b 1869 second son of H Carlyon of Torquay(Paigeites?)left C.Q 1880 joined S.Lancashire Regiment 1890 served South African War 1899 -1900 Captain 1900. Captain G Carlyon,Isthmian Club.W

[rflory]

Annie:  Are your names Boer War officers, KIA, WWI?   I found a Captain Ernest Trevor James, Welch Regt., born in 1894, died 1949.  Is he your Capt E T James?  
Still working on these but need to have a small idea of the time period I am working with.  They do not appear to be Boer War casualties as were your others.  
Regards.  Dick

[linge]

Annie/Dick

This may help with some of Annie’s officers:

Woods, Hugh K, 2nd Lt (later Lt Col)

I believe him to be Hugh Kennedy Woods born in 1877 at Walmer, Kent (Birth Registration Dec Qtr 1877 Eastry, Kent)
Son of Henry C Woods and his wife Elizabeth M Woods (nee Kennedy)
Henry was a Staff Surgeon with the Royal Navy

Hugh has a MIC
Woods, Hugh Kennedy
South Lancashire Regiment, Lieutenant Colonel
South Lancashire Regiment, Brigadier General
Tank Brigade, Brigadier General

Per the LG 6th November 1918
Legion d’Honneur
Croix d’Officier
Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel (Temporary Lieutenant-Colonel) Hugh Kennedy Woods, South Lancashire Regiment and Tank Corps.

Indian Army Quarterly Lists 1st Jan 1912
H.K. Woods
Ist Comm.: 16th March 1898
Date of Rank: 4th June 1904
Rank: Captain
Company: The Prince Of Wales’s Volunteers S Lancashire  Reg.
Remarks: Station Staff Officers (1st Class), Dalhousie

Goren, B.R, Capt

I believe him to be Berkeley Rumbold Goren born in 1867 at Bitterne, Hampshire (Birth Registration Mar Qtr 1867 South Stoneham, Hampshire)
Son of Ames and Agnes Clayton Goren
1871 Census states that Ames was late Captain 1st Battalion, 19th Foot
1891 Census Berkeley was in Barracks at St. Mary, Jersey, Lieutenant Infantry

Berkeley has a MIC
Goren, Berkeley R
2nd Battalion South Lancashire Regiment, Major

Per the LG 17th Aug 1915
Attached to Headquarters Units
Brigade Major
Major Berkeley R. Goren, The Prince of Wales’s Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment). Dated 8th August 1915.

Per the LG 16th December 1915
The Prince of Wales’s Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment)
Major Berkeley R. Goren retires on retired pay on account of ill-health.  Dated 17th December 1915.

Mott, Geoffrey R., 2nd Lieutenant

I believe him to be Geoffrey Radcliffe Mott
Born 23rd March 1878 Bareilly, West Bengal, India
Son of Charles Augustus Mott and Constance Gertrude Hall Mott (nee Parlby) (Marriage Registered June Qtr 1876 Plympton St Mary, Cornwall, Devon)

Geoffrey has a MIC
Mott, Geoffrey Radcliffe
South Lancashire Regiment, Major
Rifle Brigade, Major

Regards

Pam

[liverpool annie]

Pam!!!

Thank you so very very much!! - I'm overwhelmed !!
I did find that Geoffrey Mott spent his 100th birthday with the Regiment!!
Wow! - this is wonderful - I appreciate this so much!

Annie

Dick - thank you for all your time and effort!

[liverpool annie]

Pam!!!

Thank you so very very much!! - I'm overwhelmed !!
I did find that Geoffrey Mott spent his 100th birthday with the Regiment!!
Wow! - this is wonderful - I appreciate this so much!

Annie

Dick - thank you for all your time and effort! They were all at Fulwood Barracks Nov 1899 - and at Spion Kop!

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