A photo would be nice! Phil B
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 10:11 AM
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 10:27 AM
QUOTE (m13pgb @ Jun 4 2006, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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A photo would be nice! Phil B
A photo would be nice! Phil B
I've not heard anything specifically and there was nothing in the local paper Friday. All I know is there is something planned for 6th June at The Grand Hotel and have just seen this on the bbc local:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/souther...ies/5044206.stm
I was fortunate enough to attend Henry's 109th "do" and that was great so this should be even better! I'll keep an ear out for the Tornado's!
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 10:33 AM
Typical of WW1 servicemen! Who`d have guessed that an RAF man would have served at Jutland? Which ship was he on? Did he serve on it as a RNAS mechanic? Phil B
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 10:36 AM
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Typical of WW1 servicemen! Who`d have guessed that an RAF man would have served at Jutland? Which ship was he on? Did he serve on it as a RNAS mechanic? Phil B
Henry was on HMS Kingfisher (RNAS Air Mechanic yes) - there are some other threads on this & Henry somewhere if you search
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 02:40 PM
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A very brief, & basic resume of Henry Allingham's service.....
He says he had wanted to volunteer in 1914, when he was 18, but his widowed mother did not want to lose her only son, so he stayed with her, until she died in 1915, when he originally enlisted (I believe under the Derby scheme), as a dispatch rider in the army. However, he was unwilling to wait for the army to call him, so he enlisted as an air mechanic in the RNAS, originally volunteering for East Africa, meaning (as those Pals who have served, will know) that he was posted to the East Coast of England!!. He was on HMT Kingfisher, which towed seaplanes, & shadowed the fleet at Jutland, & later served in France, near St. Omer, where acted as observer/gunner on some flights & was also involved in the recovery of downed aircraft from the front. On 1st April 1918 he, like all members of the RNAS & RFC, transferred to the RAF.
After the war, he went to work for Ford, & during WW2 was involved in the development of countermeasures against magnetic mines (his was classified as a reserved occupation, so he was ineligible to enlist or be conscripted), & there is a story which tells of him answering a call during Christmas dinner & not returning home for some days.
Additionally, IIRC, he is also the last WW1 veteran to have received replacement campaign medals, after it was discovered he had been wearing those of a friend, due to the fact his own were lost when his London home was bombed during the Blitz.
Sorry if I am repeating information widely available elsewhere.....
Regards
Mark
P.S Henry Allingham is also in favour of a state funeral for the last British resident British WW1 veteran, although he has stated he doubts it will be him.
A very brief, & basic resume of Henry Allingham's service.....
He says he had wanted to volunteer in 1914, when he was 18, but his widowed mother did not want to lose her only son, so he stayed with her, until she died in 1915, when he originally enlisted (I believe under the Derby scheme), as a dispatch rider in the army. However, he was unwilling to wait for the army to call him, so he enlisted as an air mechanic in the RNAS, originally volunteering for East Africa, meaning (as those Pals who have served, will know) that he was posted to the East Coast of England!!. He was on HMT Kingfisher, which towed seaplanes, & shadowed the fleet at Jutland, & later served in France, near St. Omer, where acted as observer/gunner on some flights & was also involved in the recovery of downed aircraft from the front. On 1st April 1918 he, like all members of the RNAS & RFC, transferred to the RAF.
After the war, he went to work for Ford, & during WW2 was involved in the development of countermeasures against magnetic mines (his was classified as a reserved occupation, so he was ineligible to enlist or be conscripted), & there is a story which tells of him answering a call during Christmas dinner & not returning home for some days.
Additionally, IIRC, he is also the last WW1 veteran to have received replacement campaign medals, after it was discovered he had been wearing those of a friend, due to the fact his own were lost when his London home was bombed during the Blitz.
Sorry if I am repeating information widely available elsewhere.....
Regards
Mark
P.S Henry Allingham is also in favour of a state funeral for the last British resident British WW1 veteran, although he has stated he doubts it will be him.
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 03:01 PM
Desperately hunting through business files to find a survey/visit needed on Tuesday in Eastbourne !
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Posted 05 June 2006 - 01:35 PM
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Desperately hunting through business files to find a survey/visit needed on Tuesday in Eastbourne !
Flypast is due at 12.00 noon
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 11:34 AM
Happy Birthday to Henry! I was fortunate enough to be able to say it in person again this year so here are a few pics of the great man and his meeting with the Chancellor (amongst other dignataries).
Then followed a flypast from 2 Tornado's from RAF Marham and a Royal Navy Seahawk
He was really enjoying his day which will see him having a lunch with 15 of his family who made it from around the globe for the great occasion.
Happy birthday again Henry!
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Then followed a flypast from 2 Tornado's from RAF Marham and a Royal Navy Seahawk
He was really enjoying his day which will see him having a lunch with 15 of his family who made it from around the globe for the great occasion.
Happy birthday again Henry!
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 12:29 PM
Thanks, Ryan! Phil B
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 01:48 PM
So pleased that the Navy pitched up with such a pretty airplane - in salute to his RNAS service of course.
Great that a Pal was there to represent us all. Thanks for the pics, Ryan !
Happy Birthday Henry !
This has quite cheered me up as I sit in a rather dull office.
Great that a Pal was there to represent us all. Thanks for the pics, Ryan !
Happy Birthday Henry !
This has quite cheered me up as I sit in a rather dull office.
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 01:58 PM
No problem at all - always honoured to be in Henry's company!
Latest on the day from the BBC Southern Counties
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/souther...ies/5052152.stm
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Latest on the day from the BBC Southern Counties
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/souther...ies/5052152.stm
Cheers
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 02:06 PM
A richly deserved day for Henry being waited on hand foot and finger. Excellent.
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 02:17 PM
Just a little concerned about Henry`s medals. Has he lost some? Phil B
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Posted 06 June 2006 - 02:38 PM
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Just a little concerned about Henry`s medals. Has he lost some? Phil B
ISTR (including on another thread around here somewhere) that Henry lost some medals when his house was bombed during WW2 and had some replaced.
Thanks for posting the pictures SP.
I was somewhat relieved to see that the Navy had pitched in with the flypast.
I think that would be Vice Admiral Johns talking to Henry in that last pic'.
See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/souther...ies/5052152.stm
for the BBC story and
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...topic=53720&hl=
for the card I sent.
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Posted 08 June 2006 - 09:34 AM
Phil B - Henry's medals are correct - BWM & VM, with the French Legion D'Honneur (awarded to all British veterans who served in France or French waters in 1998, 2 years after the award was given to all French WW1 veterans). I think the medallion round his neck is the freedom of Eastbourne.
Gret to see he had a good day, bet he's already planning next year's celebration!
Cheers
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Gret to see he had a good day, bet he's already planning next year's celebration!
Cheers
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You`re right! I mistook the ribbon of the BWM. Phil B
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Posted 09 July 2006 - 12:05 PM
Thank you Ryan for posting those pics. I hope that they hang around here on the forum for awhile.
Perhaps if Chris decides to remove them arrangments could be made for hosting them elsewhere on the web.
(I have been delayed from posting this message by reduced internet connectivity (thank you MS) but thanks to a generous birthday gift by parents have now set-up a new laptop which has proved the router wireless is working. Had 60 pages of new posts to wade through but no immediate time for doing it. Is there a way of preserving such a long new post list for a subsequent log-in?)
Perhaps if Chris decides to remove them arrangments could be made for hosting them elsewhere on the web.
(I have been delayed from posting this message by reduced internet connectivity (thank you MS) but thanks to a generous birthday gift by parents have now set-up a new laptop which has proved the router wireless is working. Had 60 pages of new posts to wade through but no immediate time for doing it. Is there a way of preserving such a long new post list for a subsequent log-in?)
