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[David Filsell]

This has been a fascinating hread and its relationship to the GW seems clear enough. Whatever you do, don't hide it away.

[toofatfortakeoff]

No the wiki photo is not the Cairo Gang.  The Cairo Gang were all officers who met at the Cairo Cafe and included Baggalley and Ashmun(t) Aimes.  These shorties are probably not the Igoe gang as they were police although one of them number 9 appears to be in a photo wit hwhat is generally regarded as a photo of Eugene Igoe.  I can dig this out.  Too short to be coppers not too short to be auxies in mufti.

[murrough]

toofatfortakeoff, on 07 August 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

No the wiki photo is not the Cairo Gang.  The Cairo Gang were all officers who met at the Cairo Cafe and included Baggalley and Ashmun(t) Aimes.  These shorties are probably not the Igoe gang as they were police although one of them number 9 appears to be in a photo wit hwhat is generally regarded as a photo of Eugene Igoe.  I can dig this out.  Too short to be coppers not too short to be auxies in mufti.

hi, as far as I can recall the men in this photo were named in a book last year by E.McCall called "Tudors Toughs"

[corisande]

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The Cairo Gang were all officers who met at the Cairo Cafe and included Baggalley and Ashmun(t) Aimes

Once misinformation gets going it is very difficult to stop it!. The Cairo Gang is a modern, post 1950 creation, it was never used in contemporary documents. I defy/encourage anyone to come up with an original use of the expression any earlier. You can also run it through the Google gismo to show its origins at that time.

An explanation of "The Cairo Gang" photo - click . They were F Coy ADRIC, the photo, and there are at least two different annotated copies using the same names, on the IRA file in Bur Mil History in Dublin it shows clearly who they were. The IRA called the "Special Gang" not "Cairo Gang"

[wig]

An interesting piece on a military intelligence index card on Michael Collins:

http://bit.ly/Prl5Nj

[toofatfortakeoff]

Yes so Leonard Appleford is positively identified he was an Auxiliary and was shot down off duty in Grafton St. Dublin. The photo says he is dead so it could be this was taken after June 24th 21. Denitith was wounded at Brunswick St. Winch was I/O for F Coy.
Stapley G A (MM)  I think was a section leader-if 9 is McLean it could be Donald McLean who was killed on Bloody Sunday, definitely a Cairo gang member.  I say it could be him because he looks quite different in his army uniform photo.

[corisande]

Bloody Sunday was 21 Nov 1920, and the McLean to whom you refer died then

There is a D F McClean (Aux No 588) in F Company , who is much more likey to be in a photograph of F Coy men!

[PFF]

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[PFF]

Igoe of F Company ADRIC http://irishgenealog...=1#.UJJhnyKtP1w

[PFF]

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