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[garethcaergwrle]

Hi all

can anyone help with further information on my man
He DoW 3/8/1917 can anyone tell me what action he may have been involved in during that time

Regards Gareth

[sotonmate]

Gareth

I think the 1/8th Hants were in Palestine. If you have found the date of his death have you the place he's buried also ? My CWGC access is showing nil result however I spell the name. is it the hyphenated Trevor-Roper (Hugh) that we know of  from broadcasting a few years back ?

Sotonmate

[Stebie9173]

He appears to have been with 14th Battalion at his death.

Name: TREVOR-ROPER, CHARLES CADWALADR
Initials: C C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Hampshire Regiment
Unit Text: 14th Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 03/08/1917
Additional information: Husband of Gertrude Alice Trevor Roper, o Plas Teg, Mold, Flintshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. A. 30.
Cemetery: DUHALLOW A.D.S. CEMETERY

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...asualty=2936799

Steve.

[garethcaergwrle]

thanks gents

i failed to pick up off the cwgc listing that he was with the 14th Hants. i will put a posting on the units& formations to see where and what he may have been doing

The London Gazette has him promoted to Acting Major (12/3/1917) 2nd in command of a Battalion. The 14th maybe?

Regards Gareth

[ShropshireMad]

Wonder if he's a relation to this chap from Shrops

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...asualty=1579090
Neil

[T8HANTS]

Hi Gareth

His medal index card shows he did belong to the 8th Hants, who were in Palestine at the time.

He must have been attached to the 14th, who I think were with the Irish Division as pioneers, perhaps he had been wounded or sick, and returned to the UK, and then on to the 14th.

Medal Index card attached I hope.

Gareth

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[sotonmate]

Gareth

He would have been wounded in the battle of Pilckem Ridge. The 14th Hants were part of 116 Brigade of 39 Division of XVIII Corps of the 2nd Army,which on the evening of 31 July 1917,prior to this Battle commencing,was in the front line just in front of and to the west of St Julien at their southern end,and a few hundred yards SSW of Langemarck at their northern end.
His burial place was served by an Advanced Dressing Station at Duhallow, a couple of kms north of Ypres. This was a GRIM period with tens of thousands of casualties.

Sotonmate

[geraint]

Gareth
You are well aware that the Trevor-Ropers from Plas Teg,  were an historic and powerful local family. I've never worked out the proper address- is it nearer Caergwrle (your stomping ground) or Pontblyddyn? As an off topic comment to those who do not know of Plas Teg - Plas Teg is a large 17th century mansion which is reputed to be the most haunted house in Wales. It's been subject to one of those Most Haunted programmes. I wonder if Capt Trevor-Roper made an appearance!

[Hambo]

He gets a couple of mentions in the regimental history

The first has him as acting second in command of the 14th Battalion with the rank of Captain but mentions that he was originally with the 8th Battalion. That is on the 1st of October 1916.

The second has him wounded, confirming sontonmate's posting, on July 31st 1917 by which time he was a Major

Regards John

[garethcaergwrle]

Gents an Extract from the London Gazette 18th June 1917

Hamps. B.

Temp. Capt. C. C. Trevor-Roper (T.F.) to be actg. Maj. whilst 2nd in comd. of a Bn. 12 Mar. 1917 to 24 Mar. 1917.

In answer to geraints question Plas Teg is right in the middle between the two villages visit www.plasteg.co.uk

John do you have any info on his wounding

Gareth

[Hambo]

Gareth
I'm afraid not. As with most of the histories they give an account of the action and then a list of the killed wounded or missing officers by name and the numbers of other ranks in each category. Occasionally you get a specific mention of a wounding if it was witnessed and recorded but not on this occasion
Regards John

[Audax]

From the Peerage.com  

Captain Charles Cadwaladr Trevor-Roper  
b. 9 February 1884, d. 3 August 1917


Captain Charles Cadwaladr Trevor-Roper was born on 9 February 1884. He was the son of George Edward Trevor-Roper and Harriette Trevor-Roper. He married Gertrude Alice Clabby, daughter of William George Clabby, on 8 April 1913. He died on 3 August 1917 at age 33, from wounds received in action.

Captain Charles Cadwaladr Trevor-Roper fought in the First World War. He lived at Plas Teg, Flintshire, Wales.1

Children of Captain Charles Cadwaladr Trevor-Roper and Gertrude Alice Clabby
Elizabeth Alice Trevor-Roper b. 7 Jan 1914
F/Lt. Richard Dacre Trevor-Roper+ b. 19 May 1915, d. 31 Mar 1944
Anne Trevor-Roper b. 10 Sep 1916