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#1 David Seymour

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 10:42 PM

Please could someone ID this German bomber?



It looks to me like a Zeppelin-Staaken R XV but I would welcome confirmation.

Many thanks for any help you can give.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 10:58 PM

More probably a Zeppelin Straken RXVI (Av) as the engines have spinners

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:32 AM

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It's Staaken R.XIVa (Schül) Nr 84/18, ie one of the three machines planned to be built under licence by the Schütte-Lanz company. It was only partially completed by the Armistice but, unlike 85/18 and 86/18, it was finished in January 1919. However, all three aeroplanes were scrapped to prevent them falling into Allied hands.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 11:04 AM

Gareth/Centurion,
Many thanks for your help on this.
With best wishes,
David

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE (Dolphin @ Feb 22 2009, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
David

It's Staaken R.XIVa (Schül) Nr 84/18, ie one of the three machines planned to be built under licence by the Schütte-Lanz company. It was only partially completed by the Armistice but, unlike 85/18 and 86/18, it was finished in January 1919. However, all three aeroplanes were scrapped to prevent them falling into Allied hands.

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Are you sure? - I believe only those engines fitted by Aviatik were fitted with spinners which would make it a RXVI (av)

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE (centurion @ Feb 23 2009, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you sure? - I believe only those engines fitted by Aviatik were fitted with spinners which would make it a RXVI (av)

Yes. There are photographs in The German Giants which show R.84/18 both before and after its spinners were fitted. The 'after' photo is the one that David posted.

That's good enough for me.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 11:16 PM

You say that all three were scrapped to avoid falling into Allied hands. I have found a clip of one that landed in Aspern in Austria sometime in 1919 (see still). What would it be doing there?

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 03:00 AM

I said that all three Staaken R.XIVa (Schül) aircraft built under licence by Schütte-Lanz were destroyed after the Armistice, ie R84/18, R85/18 and R86/18.

The aeroplane in your photographs is R69/18, a Staaken R.XIVa built by Staaken - note the absence of the Schül suffix. R69/18 was completed on 19 October 1918 and was chartered by the post-War Ukrainian government to fly money into the Ukraine, but was seized by the Inter-Allied Control Commission at Aspern, near Vienna, after it returned from Ukraine. It was subsequently turned over to the Italians.

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