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#1 chrisharley9

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 12:23 PM



Following on from This Thread I will on behalf of the Green Room Club be carrying out research into their memorial

From CWGC the names seem to be

Name: MACKINDER, LIONEL
Initials: L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 46
Date of Death: 09/01/1915
Service No: 11539
Additional information: Son of Samuel Thomas and Susan Mackinder (nee Harris); husband of Gracie Leigh Mackinder, of 6, Queensberry Mews West, South Kensington, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 20.
Cemetery: LE TOURET MILITARY CEMETERY, RICHEBOURG-L'AVOUE

Name: SAKER, FRANK HARRISON
Initials: F H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Connaught Rangers
Unit Text: 4th Bn. attd. 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 30/10/1914
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 42.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Name: GORE, ARTHUR HOLMES
Initials: A H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Hampshire Regiment
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Date of Death: 12/08/1915
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 125-134 or 223-226 228-229 & 328.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Name: POWLES-CURTIS
Initials: A J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps
Unit Text: 17th Bn.
Date of Death: 11/09/1916
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 13 A and 13 B.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

Now Known to be buried at St Marys RC Cemetery Kensal Green

Name: RADFORD, BASIL HALLAM
Initials: B H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Unit Text: No.1 Army Kite Ballon Sec.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 20/08/1916
Additional information: Son of Walter T. H. and A. L. M. Radford, of 206, Cromwell Rd., South Kensington, London. Actor, known to theatre goers as 'Basil Hallam' or 'Gilbert the Filbert.'
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. C. 15.
Cemetery: COUIN BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: RATHBONE, GUY BENSON
Initials: G B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Gloucestershire Regiment
Unit Text: 11th Bn. attd. 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 21/04/1916
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 17.
Memorial: BASRA MEMORIAL

Name: BIBBY, CHARLES
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers
Unit Text: 23rd Bn.
Date of Death: 03/05/1917
Service No: SptS/3888
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 3.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL

Name: PROFEIT
Initials: L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Age: 39
Date of Death: 25/04/1917
Additional information: Son of Dr. Profeit, of Ballater, Balmoral; husband of Dorothy Profeit, of 11, Elms Avenue, Muswell Hill, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: F. 1386.
Cemetery: KARASOULI MILITARY CEMETERY

Name: TREVOR-ROPER, CHARLES CADWALADR
Initials: C C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Hampshire Regiment
Unit Text: 14th Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 03/08/1917
Additional information: Husband of Gertrude Alice Trevor Roper, o Plas Teg, Mold, Flintshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. A. 30.
Cemetery: DUHALLOW A.D.S. CEMETERY

Name: BLACKALL, CHARLES WALTER
Initials: C W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant Colonel
Regiment/Service: The Buffs (East Kent Regiment)
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Secondary Regiment: South Staffordshire Regiment
Secondary Unit Text: Commanding 4th Bn.
Age: 42
Date of Death: 24/03/1918
Awards: Twice Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of Maj. Robert Blackall; husband of Alice Evelyn Blackall, of 64, Bouverie Rd., Folkestone, Kent. Served in the South African War.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 2.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL

Name: HARGREAVES
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 23/08/1918
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: V. B. 4.
Cemetery: HEATH CEMETERY, HARBONNIERES

Lt Marcus Draper does not apprear to be on CWGC

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:19 PM

Interesting project -please keep us updated with progress.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:25 PM

Profeit is Leopold.

I may be able to take a photo of his grave shortly.


Marcus Draper is 2/Lt Mark Denman Draper:

Second Lieutenant M D DRAPER

Royal Flying Corps
who died on 07 February 1917

Remembered with honour
ALFRETON (ST. MARTIN) CHURCHYARD

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:48 PM

I'll bag the easiest one;

http://www.crossandc...pdf/Radford.pdf



Basil Hallam (1889-1916) was an English actor and singer. He created the character of Gilbert the Filbert for The Passing Show, the original revue of that title by Herman Finck, produced at the Palace Theatre, London, on 20 April 1914. He also recorded the title song for the HMV label on 4 June 1914. The song can be heard on a 2007 release by the Divine Art Record label, The Finck Album, sung by Mart Sander.

His death in action two years later is described by Rudyard Kipling in The Irish Guards in the Great War, Vol. 2 1916 - Salient and the Somme:

On a windy Sunday evening at Couin, in the valley north of Bus-les-Artois, the men saw an observation-balloon, tethered near their bivouacs, break loose while being hauled down. It drifted towards the enemy line. First they watched maps and books being heaved overboard, then a man in a parachute jumping for his life, who landed safely. Soon after, something black, which had been hanging below the basket, detached itself and fell some three thousand feet. We heard later that it was Captain Radford (Basil Hallam). His parachute apparently caught in the rigging and in some way he slipped out of the belt which attached him to it. He fell near Brigade Headquarters. Of those who watched, there was not one that had not seen him at the “Halls” in the immensely remote days of “Gilbert the Filbert, the Colonel of the Nuts.”





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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:59 PM

Kate

thanks very much for the info - a photo of the grave would be wonderful

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thanks very much for the info

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:18 PM

Chris, Are you sure the one you cannot find is DRAPER despite enlarging the name 400 % I cannot see the first letter as a D. Ralph.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:19 PM

There's a thread on Cadwaladr;

http://1914-1918.inv...p;#entry1114151

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:24 PM

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thanks for the grave photo - OK if I use it please

Ralph

I have a much larger res photo - it defintely says Draper

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:24 PM

Hargreaves is HAROLD and Powles-Curtis is ARTHUR JOHN. Regards Ralph.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:26 PM

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had already got Powles-Curtis as he was one of my non comm cases but thanks for Hargreaves

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:27 PM

I can find a MARK DAMIEN DRAPER RFC 7-2-1917, cannot find a Marcus Draper even listed on Ancestry. Weird. Regards. Ralph.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:30 PM

Chris. Staying in Arras from 12-10-09 for a week, do you want the two on the Arras Memorial ? Ralph.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:53 PM

Ralph

yes please

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Marcus was probably a stage name - the Green Room Club are going to look at their registers for me

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:00 PM

Draper's Death is reported in Flight:

http://www.flightglo...l?search=Denman

http://www.flightglo...l?search=Denman

http://www.flightglo...l?search=Denman



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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:17 PM

Chris,

Saker Lieut. Frank Harrison 2nd Connaught Rangers

Was reported Wounded and Prisoner of War in The Times edition of 13/11/1914

His entry date is 24/09/1914. DoD - 30/10/1914.

I'll look him up when I get home.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:19 PM

Draper on CWGC

Name: DRAPER
Initials: M D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Date of Death: 07/02/1917
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: ALFRETON (ST. MARTIN) CHURCHYARD

Regards,

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:21 PM

Hi,
This is what I have on Captain F H Saker

Regards Mark

Army List Jan 1906
5th Bn
2nd Lieutenant Saker, F. H. 20 Feb.04

Army List August 1908
4th Bn
Lieutenant F H Saker

Army List July 1911
Lieutenant p.s .F H Saker (H) 11 June 06

p.s: Has been attached to Regular Forces and obtained a satisfactory report for rank of Captain
(H): Officer of the Special Reserve of Officers, Militia, Territorial Force, or Volunteers qualified at a School of Musketry.


Army List April 1913
4th Bn
Lieutenant F H Saker 11 June 1906

Army List August 1914
4th Bn
Lieutenant F H Saker 11 June 1906

Date of entry 24. 9. 14 & date of death 30.10.14 from Medal Card

From Sergeant McIlwain,s Journal
“It is reported that one young officer named Saker, who brought up the last of the reserves from home, gets up a raid on his own one night. He is wounded and, with all those left alive taken prisoner.” 30th Oct to 7th Nov 1914

From the 2nd Bn War Diary
31.10.14 In trenches – 1 ˝ Platoon C Company under Lieut Saker attacked German trenches in support of a company of Berkshire,s who advanced along BECELEARE Wood – Lieut Saker wounded + captured – 6 NCO,s + men killed – 30 wounded – 30 missing many of whom were taken prisoner.

Army List Jan 1915
4th Bn
Captain F H Saker 9 Sept 1914 attached 2nd Bn

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:25 PM

Chris,

The above Draper is your man, I think.

The Stage Yearbook 1918;

Death was busy in the ranks of the theatre during the year. "Some to the wars
to try their fortune there," and to find glorious record upon its " purple testa-
ment." No exact record of lives laid down can be given, for enlistment was often
under other than stage names. But a list as complete as possible, which appears
elsewhere, includes Arthur Scott Craven (Capt.), Evelyn Beerbohm (Major), Marcus
Draper (Lieut.
), Charles Bibby, Leopold Profeit (Capt.), Basil Holmes (Lieut.),
J. H. Stanners, Lewis C. Howard (Major), C. V. Sandford (Laeut.), Alan Fishei',
Oliphant Down (Capt.), R. Hope Lumley (Lieut.), T. W. J. Wilson (Lieut.), and Frank
Cody (Lieut.). Amongst its veterans the pi-ofession has to lament the deaths of Mr.
W. H. Kendal, Mrs. John BiUington, Mi^ Kate Bateman, Mr. Ridiard Flanagan,
Mr. Frank Archer, Mr. George Warde, and ^'Ii* Harry Paulton, as well as a line
tragedian in Mr. W. T. Haviland, a feie emoitional actress in Miss Darragih, and
popular comedians in IVL-. James Welch, Mr. Fred Emney, and Mr. Fi^ Billington ;
and also Misses Claora Cowper, Floirence Farr, Olga Audre, and Emma Hutchison,
Messjs. E. Hoggan Armiadale, Charles Arnold, Horace Sedger, Eric Blind, Henry
Bracy, Alexander Calvert, Herbert Dansey, Charles Draycott, Herbert Kelcey, Philip
Seftou, and Fred Storey. Capt. Murray Carson, actor and author, died while engaged
on military work, being officer commanding the detadiment of the Army Service
Corps at Canterbury. To devoted war work was also attributable the death of Mr.
Hubert Henry Davies, our most charming writer of modern comedy, and also of
Captain Basil Hood, the playwright, and Lieut.-Col. N. Newnham Davis, play-
wright and critic. Mr. John Douglass, retired manager and playwright, fell a
victim to an air raid. Musical comedy suffered a loss in Mr. Paul A. Rubens, and
another in Mr. Edward Jones; farce and burlesque in Sir Francis Burnand, and
dramatic criticism in Miss Kate Venning, probably our best English authority on
the French stage.


From the same source;

Drainer, Marcus (2nd Lieutenant Mark Denman
Draper). Aged 32. February. Death oc-
curred in a flying acoident. Mr. Draper,
who was the eldest son of the Rev. W. H.
Draper, now rector of Adel, near Leeds,
and the grandson of the late Mr. Justice
Denman, was born thirty-two years ago at
Alfreton, Derbyshire, where his father at
that time was Vicar. He was educated at
Repton School, Derbyshire, and about ten
years ago he adopted the dramatic profes-
sion, his initial experience being with Sir
Frank Benson.


The forum seems a bit camper since you've begun this project.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:29 PM

Bibby, Charies. May. Mr. Biibby, who was
in the Royal iFusiliers, and had been in
the Army since November, 191.5. had pre-
viously l>e«n wounded in the arm and sent
home sufferinig from shell shock. Mr.
Bibby was one of the original members
of Miss A. E. Homiman's company at the
Gaiety, Manchester, and was also with
that company during their Canadian tour.
Mr. Bibby, who was bom at Stratford,
Lanes., in November, 1878, started his act-
ing career with the Benson company in
1898, and remained with them for five
years. He made his d6but on the West
End stage in April, 1905, as Feste in
" Twelfth Night " at His Majesty's, -where
he remiained for eiighteen months. After
a iseason with the Terry-iNedlson comipany,
he joined Forbes-Robertson, whom he
accompanied to America in 1906. He was a
member of the Horniman company at the
Midland and aftenvards at the' Gaiety,
Manchester, esitablisliing himself with play-
goers there as an able all-round' actor. His
Gaffer Peairoe in "INan," Cokane in
" Widowers' Houses," Marten Kil in " An
Enemy of the People," Dogberry in " Much
Ado Aibout Nothing," Samuel JacJfson in
"The Return of Uie iProdigal," Cokeson
in " Justice," Sir Peter Teazle in " The
School for Scandal," Tony Lumpkin in
"iShe 'Stoops to Conquer," and MoJlen-
trave in " Mollentrave on Women " — a
favourite part of his — CHiri.stopber Haw-
thorn in " Hindle Wakes," Cayley Drummle
in " The Second Mrs. Tanqueray," land
William Banning in '* The Mob," were
roles that stood out in the midst of much
varied work with the company of whom
he was so valued a member. At the iPlay-
house in 1912 he acted Philibert in " The
Little Caf6," and at the same theatre in
1913 Manford Wilton in " The Headmas-
ter," and at the Aldwych in 1915 Jelly in
" Riete."


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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:29 PM

Everyone thank you so very much

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 05:12 PM

There's a picture of Lionel Mackinder on stage here (3rd pic down);

http://www.gabrielle...3/20031122.html

If you right-click on it, it shows the e-mail address to request the picture (assuming you want this odd picture!)



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Posted 11 September 2009 - 05:16 PM

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thanks for the link - will be using it

Chris

Please dont worry about MICs as I have an ancestry account

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 05:42 PM

Was your man a captain in 1915?

Blackall, Capt. C. W. Songs from the Trenches. 1915. 60 pp



THE PADRE

CAPT. C. W. BLACKALL

'E's a sportsman is our Padre,
Of that there ain't a doubt.
'E don't chuck religion at yer,
An' preach at yer an' spout
An if 'e 'ears yer cussin',
As yer film' up ther bags.
'E jest ses, "Fumigate your throat,"
An' 'ands yer out some fags.


'E don't take all fer granted
That yer murderers an' thieves,
An' always tell yer, now's ther time
Fer turnin' over leaves.
'E'll wander round ther trenches,
Jest to pass ther time o' day.
An' there ain't a bloke as doesn't feel
A man 'as passed that way.


I remember once, near Wipers,
When things was pretty lot,
An' yer 'ad ter keep yer nut down
If yer didn't want it shot;
While they was fairly plasterin'
As fast as they could load,
'E came ridin'--mark yer, ridin'
All down ther Menin Road.


'E was dossin' in a "staminay,"
Pyjamas all complete,
When a 'igh--explosive carried
'Arf the louse into the street.
While other blokes was runnin' wild,
An' kickin' up a row,
'E calmly arsts, ''Pray, what is the
Correct procedure now


They tells 'im as 'e'd better
Do a bunk for all 'e's worth,
As 'is bloomin' "staminay" is not
Ther safest spot on earth.
But 'e 'as a look around 'im,
An' wags 'is bally 'ead;
Ses'e, "It seems quite restful now,''
An' back 'e goes to bed.


But 'e fairly put ther lid on
When we made ther last attack:
If 'is lads was goin' ter cop it,
'E weren't fer 'angin' back.
So 'e lops out of ther trenches
Level with ther foremost 'ound,
An' natural like 'e stops one
An' gets a little wound.


'E's a sportsman is our Padre,
Of that there ain't a doubt.
'E don't chuck religion at yer,
An' preach at yer an' spout.
Still, 'e'll show ther way ter 'Eaven--
That's if anybody can--
But we'd follow 'im to 'ell; 'cos why?
Our Padre 'e's a man.



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Posted 11 September 2009 - 05:50 PM

IPT

dont know on that one - have yet to do the LG search

Chris