Jump to content


Remembered Today:

0

Sequence of Burials at Fromelles


5 replies to this topic

#1 tootrock

tootrock

    Lieut-Colonel

  • Old Sweats
  • 548 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:East Sussex

Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:12 AM

Is it possible to discover the grave reference for a particular burial in the new cemetery at Fromelles if the date and time of that burial are known?
I was there during the final week of burials. Standing outside the cemetery wall it was not possible to see exactly where each of three interments took place, but I do know that they were the first three after the break for lunch on that day. Presumably some list exists giving the sequence of burials.
I would like to know the reference of these three graves, so that I can pay my respects to the men I saw buried, during some future visit

Martin

#2 SPOF

SPOF

    Lieut-Colonel

  • Old Sweats
  • 1,256 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brisbane, Aus now in London

Posted 24 July 2010 - 12:20 PM

Martin

Can you work it out from this plan?

http://www.army.gov....s_vjib1-2a4.pdf

Glen

#3 tootrock

tootrock

    Lieut-Colonel

  • Old Sweats
  • 548 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:East Sussex

Posted 24 July 2010 - 01:26 PM

Glen,

Thanks for that, but it is not possible to derive what I am looking for.

The burials were not done sequentially on the day I was there but seemed to be alternately either side of the central pathway, in plots III and II. I was stood by a gap in the wall, between plots IV and III on your diagram, where there was a public viewing area. Because the cemetery slopes up from there towards the Cross of Sacrifice, the burials were almost at eye level, so very difficult to locate accurately.

I will try the CWGC - they should have a record.

Martin

#4 SPOF

SPOF

    Lieut-Colonel

  • Old Sweats
  • 1,256 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brisbane, Aus now in London

Posted 24 July 2010 - 02:59 PM

Martin

I wasn't sure if it would. I was at the first week and a friend sent some from the last and it was a lot more difficult plotting hte later photos.

If CWGC can't help, try the MOD as they would have been involved in the planning.

Glen

#5 David Faulder

David Faulder

    Brigadier-General

  • Old Sweats
  • 1,980 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Interests:3rd, 1/4th, 14th Battalions York and Lancaster Regiment

Posted 26 July 2010 - 01:17 PM

View PostSPOF, on 24 July 2010 - 02:59 PM, said:

Martin

I wasn't sure if it would. I was at the first week and a friend sent some from the last and it was a lot more difficult plotting the later photos.

If CWGC can't help, try the MOD as they would have been involved in the planning.

Glen

Someone must know as they were burying pre-identification; so they must know that body NNN went into plot X and likewise I would have thought there would have been a schedule of burials saying body NNN was buried at hh:mm dd/mm/yy.  I can't somehow imagine bodies being collected from the mortuary at random and no record being kept.

David

#6 tootrock

tootrock

    Lieut-Colonel

  • Old Sweats
  • 548 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:East Sussex

Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:29 PM

I have now had a reply from the CWGC regarding the order in which plots were used for burial on the day in question, and from this information, and my own photographs taken that day, and the plan kindly provided by SPOF, I am now fairly certain that I know which burials I observed.

Martin