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Posted 06 May 2011 - 11:41 AM
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Posted 06 May 2011 - 09:05 PM
Members of the Royal Navy Auxiliary Sick Berth Reserve were recruited from the St John's Ambulance Brigade and the St Andrew's Ambulance Association Corps. for service in the Royal Navy in time of war and on board ship they did pretty much what a female nurse would have done in hospital on land, looking after sick and injured sailors and assisting ship's doctors.
SBA = Sick Berth Attendant.
Posted 07 May 2011 - 01:59 AM
Posted 07 May 2011 - 02:02 AM
Basically just a nominal ship to which he was assigned for the purposes of his pay and so on. Larger ships were accounting units in their own right, smaller vessels (destroyers, subs and smaller) had a depot ship which is shown in their records as their accounting base, and similarly for those in land based roles they would be grouped under a ship name
Posted 07 May 2011 - 11:33 AM
Thanks David, could we infer from his being on Victory III that he was working in the naval hospital at Plymouth?
Posted 07 May 2011 - 07:46 PM
If it was Victory III then he was based at Portsmouth. if it was Vivid III then he was based in Plymouth.
Posted 07 May 2011 - 07:51 PM
Thanks, my error there.
Posted 07 May 2011 - 09:19 PM
Posted 08 May 2011 - 12:47 AM
You man had enrolled in the RNASBR sometime prior to the outbreak of the Great War. In fact when the war actually began he was already over 40 and therefore beyond the age limit for mobilization (note only property is requisitioned). This changed in 1916 when the Military Service Act was introduced. That made all abled bodied men up to the age of 45 liable to conscription. Seems probable therefore that Mr Marchant was able to avoid call up into the army by virtue of his red cross experience and earlier enlistment into the Naval Aux. Sick Berth Reserve.
Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:06 AM
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 11:46 AM
After viewing many ratings papers this is the theme for Number Division's 1 & 2. Does say Vivid 3, 4, & 5 follow any trend like this?
Pembroke 1= Able Seaman, Signalman & Telegraphists.
Pembroke 2=Stoker & ERA's
Victory 1= Able Seaman, Signalman & Telegraphists.
Victory 2=Stoker & ERA's
Vivid 1 1= Able Seaman, Signalman & Telegraphists.
Vivid 2=Stoker & ERA's
Posted 08 May 2011 - 01:23 PM
Sorry Michael, based on what you now tell me from information on his Service Docs, it's highly unlikely that he had served any time in the RNASBR prior to the war (as he wouldn't then have ben recalled as a JRA) - I wrongly jumped to conclusions based on insufficient knowledge - but if you don't mind, perhaps you might post a scan of his Service Certificate here in this thread, as I'm sure that it would be interesting for some of us to see.
Mr Marchant was fortunate then to be enlisted into the navy in 1916 (when conscription came in). Many who expressed a preference for the navy at that time were disappointed and ended up in the army instead.
I guess it helped a lot that he had some prior medical experience from his St. John's Ambulance Brigade service (as mentioned earlier, there was a special scheme existing between St. John's and the navy for recruitment into the RNASBR).
He may have been a volunteer into the RNASBR, but if he hadn't chosen to take that particular route, then he would still nevertheless have been subject to compulsory conscription into the armed forces.
Perhaps the regimental collar tabs on his St. John's uniform could have come from earlier army or TA service prior to the war? I've seen photos of other men at the time in civilian uniformed services who also chose to show their association with there former unit by wearing their old collar badges unofficially on their civilian uniforms (these were proud patriotic times).
Good luck with your quest.
Posted 08 May 2011 - 01:28 PM
Thanks Arabis, what you wirte makes it pretty easy to understand what he did there. How would we know if he was a volunteer in entering or he was 'requistioned, or wouldn't we'? Seems he first starts on 17 Sept 1917 having been born in 15 Sept 1873. Given we are only given Vivid III as his ship, would this tell us he was on land most, if not all the time? Again thanks.
Posted 09 May 2011 - 05:54 AM
Please see post #25 in your other thread in SOLDIERS, entitled In Welsh Brigade and a Petty Officer, for the answer to your last sentence.