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[David Underdown]

For some reason his medals were returned to the medal office for some sort of adjustment under the provisions of paragraph 992 of King's Regulations 1923. Theother references probably all relate to correspondence about this matter

[rkirb5]

Hi

The Retd (992 KR 1923) means-
"Kings Regulation 1923<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break">992. Medals which, at the end of one year, still remain unclaimed, will be sent to the Secretary, The War Office."

So it looks like when they were sent out the local post office could not deliver them to him (he had moved?) and they were sent back to MOD.

THe 7860/Adt is a reference to the person who wrote it on the card and I suspect the other two are references to further use of the card, ie the person may have asked in the future for the medals to be sent to him. Looking at the medal roll the card refers to may shed some more information. If it has CRV and a date on it, then that was the time the medals were posted out.

Also read through this-
http://www.1914-1918...grandad/mic.htm

regards

Robert

[YJ2568]

Thanks to both of you, that makes it much clearer. So does that mean he never claimed the medals and where would they be now, still MOD? And how do I view the medal role the card refers to?
Yana

[rkirb5]

Hi Yana

Unfortunately no, then MOD destroyed all unclaimed medals and stopped reissuing replacements in 1980's.
With the medal card you have to go to National Archives to view, or ask someone on here nicely if they would.
Post it in this section-
http://1914-1918.inv...p?showforum=166
You need to put all the details on the Medal Index Card as they have to be converted to a WO number to find the right book.
regards

Robert

[David Underdown]

I had believed this was the case but my father's cousin has recently obtained my gt-gt-uncle's medals (avatar, DOW received on the Somme, 1916) as they had never been successfully issued

[YJ2568]

Thats great news David, do you know how he got them? And what do you mean by not successfully issued, is that the same as unclaimed? Would I be able to do the same?
Yana

[David Underdown]

I don't know the full details, as I recall the card showed the medals had been returned. Just try speaking to the mod medals office to get chapter and verse

[YJ2568]

David Underdown, on 16 August 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

I don't know the full details, as I recall the card showed the medals had been returned. Just try speaking to the mod medals office to get chapter and verse

thanks for the help David, I'l see what I can do from this

[Buccaneer]

Good morning Gents.

Can anyone help me with my wife's grandfathers medal card. Not a lot of information on the card. He was in the ASC (Army Service Corp). He was not a volunteer , but conscripted.

1. Can anyone tell me how we find out what part of the ASC he served in (living in Enfield, North London at the time of conscription).
2. Where he served?

The card:

[roughdiamond]

Buccaneer, on 15 September 2011 - 07:24 AM, said:

Good morning Gents.

Can anyone help me with my wife's grandfathers medal card. Not a lot of information on the card. He was in the ASC (Army Service Corp). He was not a volunteer , but conscripted.

1. Can anyone tell me how we find out what part of the ASC he served in (living in Enfield, North London at the time of conscription).
2. Where he served?

1. Go to the National Archives at Kew, request the medal Roll referenced on the Medal Card then look at the page number from the Medal Card and it should give you his Unit.

2. Once you know his Unit, look it up on the Long Long Trail and that will tell you where the Unit operated.

Sam

[Buccaneer]

Thanks RD.

We went to Kew last week, but did not have two forms of ID on us (left cards/driving licence at FIL's in case wallet/bag got stolen while travelling about the big smoke). If you have a good root-around on the National Archives website you eventually find what is required to view documents. It doesn't stand out, so only found out when we arrived. No ID, meant we were unable to view the roll, so were a bit limited in what we could do.

A Gentleman sat next to us (thanks Pete if you are reading) did what he could for us. We will visit Kew again in the future, and take ID with us. Cheers.

[Salford]

Buccaneer, on 02 August 2011 - 05:06 PM, said:

I'm also not sure about the medal(s) being undeliverable either.

Thomas Myers father William (and his other sisters) lived at Lorn Street. In fact, the last Myers to leave that house was his elder sister Ada in 1955. So if the medal was delivered to his home address, why couldn't his father take delivery? Did they have some kind of signed for postage in 1914-18, whereby no signature, no handing over then returned to sender?

Thomas was killed (don't know how yet) in May 1918. He had come through the lot, and ran out of luck 6 months before the armistice.

Hi Buccaneer
Ada Myers was my Great, Great GrandMother on my maternal side, however I never knew her. My mum didn't talk much about her side of the family so I’ve only recently found out I had a relative who was killed in WW1. I thought my only links to WW1 were through my paternal Grandfather who served in the Royal Navy.

I see from your posting you have an image of Thomas’s Soldier’s Army book but for some reason I can’t view it! Would you be prepared to share an image with me?

Not sure if you have seen it but there is a picture of the 16^th Battalion taken in Camp at Heaton Park, Manchester – sadly the names of the men are only given in alpha order so I don’t know where Thomas is in the picture – happy to post it here if you would like a copy.

All the best

[Buccaneer]

Hello Salford - Kinsman!

I have PM'd you sir.

[Salford]

Hi Buccaneer
Hope all is ok? Did you get my last message with my email address?
All the best