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[frev]

A few more AIF men from country Victoria:

BICKFORD, William – Cpl 815, 14th Bn – wounded 4/6/1915 Gallipoli – RTA 15/8/1915 – re-sailed 18/2/1916
KIA 11/4/1917 Bullecourt, age 25 – Queant Rd Cemetery, Buissy, Pas de Calais

BIRTHISEL, Matthew – Pte 953, 23rd Bn – served Gallipoli Sept 1915 to evacuation
Died 5/2/1919 of Broncho Pneumonia – Fovant (St George) Churchyard, Wiltshire, UK

BRETT, Charles – Spr 403, 5th Bn – 2nd FCE – landed Gallipoli 12/8/1915
KIA 23/7/1916 – VB Memorial, France (also Memorial Cross in Albert Communal Cemetery Extension)
[His brother Alfred (2341, 9th Bn) landed Lemnos 18/11/15 – KIA 3/8/1916 – VB Mem]

FORSTER, Charles Edward – Pte 1026, 22nd Bn – served Gallipoli
KIA 3/5/1917 Bullecourt – VB Memorial

HENNESSY, Harold – Pte 135, 21st Bn – landed Gallipoli Sept 1915
DOW 12/5/1917 (received 2nd Battle of Bullecourt 10/5/17) – Grevillers British Cemetery, Pas de Calais

LETTS, George – Tpr 1053, 4th LH – served Gallipoli 2/10/1915 to evacuation
Died 13/11/1916 Zawamel when his horse bolted & ran him into a tree-branch, de-horsing him & fracturing his spine – Cario War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt

LONG, Norman Verrel – Pte 591, 23rd Bn – served Gallipoli Sept 1915 to 10/12/15 (evac septic mouth)
KIA 4/8/1916 Pozieres – VB Memorial

STEPHENSON, Arthur James – Pte 966 & 6811, 7th Bn – landed Gallipoli 25/4/1915, wounded 8/5/15 – rejoined Bn 25/6/15 – evac 9/11/15 (para-typhoid)
KIA 4/5/1917 Bullecourt, age 25 – Morchies Military Cemetery, Pas de Calais

WICKER, Arthur Albert – Pte 1391, 16th Bn – 48th Bn – evac Gallipoli 25/8/15 (varicose veins)
KIA 12/10/1917 Belgium, age 33 – Menin Gate Memorial

[WINTERBOURNE, John – Pte 510, 14th Bn – Served Gallipoli Apr / May 1915
Died 6/2/1916 of a contused abdomen after being kicked by a horse – Ismailia War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt]


Cheers, Frev

[bobpike]

Andy/Frev,
Thank you again,
Bob

[River97]

Just to keep it rolling, here are four more Aussies,

1134 Bugler Henry Walter Dumbrill, 10th Battalion AIF, served Gallipoli to be KIA Pozieres 23 August 1916.

1138 Private Alexander Duncan (served under Davidson) 1st Battalion AIF, served Gallipoli to be KIA Pozieres 22-25 July 1916.

1931 Private Jack Johnson Duncan, 11th Battalion AIF, landed Gallipoli 22 June 1915, KIA Bullecourt 16 April 1917.

345 Corporal Ninian Duncan, 10th Field Artillery Brigade, served Gallipoli with 1st Field Artillery Brigade, KIA 4 May 1917 France.

Cheers Andy.

[LeoMc]

Blimey --- Good Luck Bob!!

22nd Battalion AIF
517 Private Leo Aloysius McCartin to Gallipoli (Johnston's Jolly) 5.9.1915 - KIA Lt LA McCartin MC, Herleville 18.8.1918
514 Private Alexander Conrad Le Maitre to Gallipoli (Johnston's Jolly) 5.9.1915 - KIA L/Cpl AC Le Maitre, Pozieres 5.8.1916

When I get a chance, I'll have a look through the 22nd Btn history - wont be too big a job to get the originals of the 22nd sorted, but the question of whether some of the KIA from later reinforcements got to Gallipoli will take longer.

In the meantime - going fishing!!

Cheers

paul

[SFayers]

Hi again Bob,

Here are some 15th Suffolk Regiment (formerly 1/1st Suffolk Yeomanry) men who saw service in Gallipoli:

Private 320103 Samuel Bloomfield, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Leiston, Suffolk, died of wounds on 25th November 1918; buried in Les Baraques Military Cemetery, Sangatte, Calais. Formerly Private 1654 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Company Sergeant Major 320135 Christopher Chambers, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Sudbourne, Suffolk, killed in action on 18th September 1918 at Templeux-Le-Guerard; buried in Templeux-Le-Guerard British Cemetery. Formerly Lance Corporal 1718 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320143 Arthur James Chisnall, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Hadleigh, Suffolk, killed in action on 6th November 1917 in Palestine; buried in Beersheba War Cemetery. Formerly Private 1732 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320379 Sidney John Cowdrey (Cawdrey on MIC), 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Drayton, Berkshire, killed in action on 6th November 1917 in Palestine; buried in Beersheba War Cemetery. Formerly Private 3262 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Sergeant 320391 Frederick Ernest Crick, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Hoxne, Suffolk, died of wounds 6th September 1918; buried in Peronne Road Cemetery, Maricourt. Formerly Private 3282 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320136 Frank Henry Feakes, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Barton, Suffolk, killed in action at Beersheba on 31st October 1917 in Palestine; commemorated on the Jerusalem Memorial. Formerly Private 1719 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Sergeant 320082 Frederick Gordon Gay, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Briston, Norfolk, killed in action on 6th November 1917 in Palestine; buried in Beersheba War Cemetery. Formerly Lance Corporal 1603 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320200 Claude Gray, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Halstead, Essex, killed in action on 6th November 1917 in Palestine; buried in Beersheba War Cemetery. Formerly Private 2046 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Sergeant 320063 Fred Ambrose Grayston, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Highgate, Middlesex, killed in action 2nd September 1918; buried in Peronne Communal Cemetery Extension. Formerly Private 1551 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320400 Sydney Clarence Harvey, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Fordham, Cambridgeshire, killed in action on 6th November 1917 in Palestine; buried in Beersheba War Cemetery. Formerly Private 3325 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320181 William Hewish, 15th Suffolk Regiment, killed in action on 13th September 1918; buried in Villers-Faucon Communal Cemetery Extension. Formerly Private 1882 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Sergeant 320003 Leslie E Lewell, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Beccles, Suffolk, killed in action on 9th March 1918 in Palestine. Formerly Sergeant 1123 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320176 James Fisher Mann, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Cransford, Suffolk, died on 23rd January 1918 in Egypt; buried in Alexandria (Hadra) War Memorial Cemetery. Formerly Private 1857 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320121George F Mauldon, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Sudbury, Suffolk, killed in action on 6th November 1917 in Palestine; buried in Beersheba War Cemetery. Formerly Private 1686 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320360 Reginald William Onyett, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Winchmore Hill, Middlesex, died of wounds 11th November 1917 in Egypt; buried in Kantara War Memorial Cemetery. Formerly Private 3213 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320371 George William Rivers , 15th Suffolk Regiment, born Hong Kong, killed in action on 6th September 1918; buried in Peronne Communal Cemetery Extension. Formerly Private 3242 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320112 Mapes Harry Rushbrook, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Witton, Norfolk, died of wounds on 17th September 1918; buried in Bronfay Farm Military Cemetery, Bray-Sur-Somme. Formerly Private 1671 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Sergeant 320014 Thomas Samuel Smith, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Hadleigh, Suffolk, killed in action on 8th December 1917 in Palestine; commemorated on the Jerusalem War Memorial. Formerly Corporal 1365 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Private 320396 George Unwin, 15th Suffolk Regiment, from Great Wilbraham, Cambridgeshire, killed in action on 8th December 1917 in Palestine; commemorated on the Jerusalem War Memorial. Formerly Private 3308 in the Suffolk Yeomanry.

Note: All of these men would have landed on Gallipoli at Walker's Pier on 10th October 1915 (MIC theatre entry dates actually appear to relate to the 1/1st Suffolk Yeomanry leaving Leiston in Suffolk for Liverpool [23rd September] and the original sailing from Mudros to Anzac [8th October - due to weather conditions the boat had to return to Imbros]).




All the best

Steve

　

[River97]

There's got to be some New Zealanders involved in this as well so here we go:

13/368 Lieutenant William Henwood Johns, Auckland Mounted Rifles, served on Gallipoli, KIA Beersheba 31 October 1917.

7/163 Corporal Arthur Lake Batchelor, Canterbury Mounted Rifles, served on Gallipoli, DOW Palestine 27 November 1917.

7/166 Lieutenant Stanley Berryman, Canterbury Mounted Rifles, twice wounded on Gallipoli, KIA Damascus 30 March 1918.

13/2163 Trooper James Browne, Auckland Mounted Rifles, served on Gallipoli, KIA Gaza 19 April 1917.

11/635 Sergeant Robert Egremont Mason, Wellington Mounted Rifles, Landed Gallipoli 12 May 1915, DOW Palestine 19 November 1917.

Cheers Andy.

[1st AIF]

Hi Bob,

Some 50,000 Australians served at Gallipoli. 7,600 died and about 21,000 were wounded. Assume that about a third of the wounded saw no further service and two thirds were eventually sent back to their units. This means of the 50,000 vets about 15,000 died or were repatriated back to Australia. If the remaining 35,000 saw further service then one could assume that up to a sixth of them would die later in the war. So therefore it could be that about 5,000-6,000 Australian Gallipoli veterans would be on the list. You'd think the number is already recorded somewhere by a government department when working out various entitlements.

I think there were less than a 1,000 Aussies remaining in their units who qualified for Anzac special leave in late 1918. All the rest were dead or already repatriated.

I am studying 50 Australian infantry men who served at Gallipoli. Of these 11 were killed in 1916, 4 in 1917 and 4 in 1918.

Quite a project and good luck!

Len

[frev]

Some of the AIF men that survived the torpedoing of the Southland en-route to Gallipoli 2/9/1915:

ARAM: John Thomas Hamilton – Capt, 2nd DSC
KIA 25/9/1917 Glencourse Wood – Menin Gate Memorial

BARNES, Basil Bernard – CSM 324, 21st Bn – evac Gallipoli 12/12/15 – wounded 1916
KIA 4/10/1917 Broodseinde Ridge – Butts New British Cemetery, Belgium

BOWDEN, Charles Maxwell – 1785 / 2nd Lieut, 22nd Bn
KIA 19/5/1918 – VB Memorial

BROWN, George – Pte 802, 21st Bn
DOW 5/8/1916 – Becourt Cemetery, France

CAMBREY, Richard – Pte 810, 21st Bn
DOW 31/10/1917 (received 9/10/1917 Belgium) – Netley Military Cemetery, UK

CLOSE, Harold Craig – Pte 319, 23rd Bn
DOW 18/6/1916, received that day at Armentiers – Bailleul Com Cemetery Ext

EALES, Thomas Whiteway – 841 / Lieut (DCM), 21st Bn
KIA 19/5/1918 – Mericourt-L’Abbe Com Cemetery Ext

KNIGHT, Thomas – Pte 412, 21st Bn
KIA 1/8/1916 France – VB Memorial

MAXFIELD, Gordon Loris – Capt (MC), 21st Bn
KIA 3/5/1917 Bullecourt – VB Memorial

McKAY, Eric Brodie – Lieut, 6th Bde HQ – 22nd Bn
DOW 10/8/1916, age 22 – St Sever Cemetery, Rouen

PEARCE, Joseph William – Capt (MC), 21st Bn
KIA 4/10/1917 Broodseinde Ridge – Menin Gate Memorial

SELWAY, George Alfred – L/Cpl 746, 21st Bn
DOW 18/6/1917 (received Bullecourt 3/5/17) – St Sever Cemetery Ext, Rouen

THOMAS, Frederick William – Pte 462, 23rd Bn
KIA 28/7/1916 France – VB Memorial

WILLIAMSON, Victor Collins – Pte 773, 21st Bn
KIA 26/8/1916 Mouquet Farm – VB Memorial


Cheers, Frev

[bobpike]

Thank you all, Len your statistics are very interesting and a little daunting for this task, as you suggest, Paul (enjoy your fishing!). But it has to be done!
May I ask a question?
Frev, I assume the Southland survivors subsequently still served at Gallipoli?

[Bingo794]

Hi

Just thought I'd add the few from my collection.


No.9928 Pte Frank Brown 6th Lincs, to theatre 14/07/1915. Born Winterton, Lincs, resided West Halton, Lincs., enlisted, Crosby, Scunthorpe, Lincs. Died 31/05/1917 aged 30. No details to hand of casualty, thought to be a training accident or suchlike. Appears on the Winteringham village war memorial. Buried Bailluel Communal Cemetery.

No.10391 Pte George Gibson 6th Lincs, to theatre 18/07/1915. Born and enlisted Crosby, Scunthorpe, Lincs. KIA with the 15th (Infantry) MGC 21/10/1916  re-numbered 9166. Appears on the Scunthorpe Museum and Loos memorial

No.11033 Pte John Rhodes 6th Lincs, to theatre 14/07/1915. Born King's Cliffe, Northants., resided Osgodby, Market Rasen, Lincs., enlisted Scunthorpe, Lincs. DOW 15-18/09/1915 onboard ship aged 30, buried Pieta Military Cemetery, Malta. Appears on Burgh-on-Bain village memorial, Lincs.

No.16820 Pte Arthur Keech 6th Lincs, to theatre 21/11/1915. Born and resided in New Brumby, Scunthorpe. Lincs., KIA 14-16/09/1916 aged 37. Appears on the Scunthorpe Museum memorial and the Lysaughts Steelworks Employees memorial, Scunthorpe, Lincs. Buried Ovilliers Cemetery.

No.17904 Pte George Gee 6th Lincs, to theatre 21/11/1915. From Cuckoo Bridge, Spalding, Lincs. KIA 18/09/1916 aged 19. Appears on the Thiepval memorial.

All casualties with the 6th Battalion Lincolnshire Regiment apart from George Gibson, who at some point, transferred to the 15th MGC Infantry.

[bobpike]

Bingo
Thank you very much, if you have more I'd be most grateful.
As a Lincolnshire Regt expert, may I pick your brains re an ARTHUR MARRIOTT on Swineshead Memorial, but not (obviously) on CWGC,
Bob

[frev]

bobpike, on 23 October 2011 - 05:53 AM, said:

Frev, I assume the Southland survivors subsequently still served at Gallipoli?

Yes, sorry Bob – after resting & re-equipping for a few days at Lemnos, the Southland men landed at Gallipoli on the 8/9/15

A few more Southland men for you:

COZENS, Thomas Evan – Lieut, 21st Bn
Evac Gallipoli 9/11/15 enteritis / jaundice
KIA 24/2/1917, age 24 – Warlencourt British Cemetery, France

DYER, William Francis – Pte 607, 21st Bn
Evac Gallipoli 3/10/15 Gastro-enteritis
KIA 10/2/1917, age 23 – Warlencourt British Cemetery

HUNT, George Campbell – CSM 153, 21st Bn (DCM, 1917)
Wounded 1916 & 1917
KIA 4/7/1918 France, age 38 – Crucifix Corner Cemetery

LAWREY, Charles Winter – Cpl 1506, 21st Bn
Wounded Gallipoli 17/12/15
DOW (same day) 10/2/1917 5th AFA, France – Martinpuich British Cemetery

PUNCHER, James Samuel – Pte 482, 21st Bn
Evac to Mudros 10/11/15 appendicitis
KIA 21/11/1916 France – AIF Burial Ground, Flers

WIPPELL, George – Pte 534, 21st Bn
KIA 21/11/16 France, age 31 – AIF Burial Ground, Flers


And another 21st Bn man (who wasn’t on the Southland):
HERBERT, Harry Stanley – Pte 1944, 21st Bn (3rd Reinf)
Landed Gallipoli 12/10/1915
KIA 21/11/1916 Factory Corner, Flers – AIF Burial Ground


Cheers, Frev

[Bingo794]

bobpike, on 24 October 2011 - 06:12 AM, said:

Bingo
Thank you very much, if you have more I'd be most grateful.
As a Lincolnshire Regt expert, may I pick your brains re an ARTHUR MARRIOTT on Swineshead Memorial, but not (obviously) on CWGC,
Bob

Ask away!

Which Arthur Marriott are we talking about, 21757 or 15934 of the 7th and 1st battalions respectively. 13689 appears on CWGC, another 7th man.

DW

[bobpike]

I'll have to ask my friend who is doing this research. What I can recall is that 13689 on Thiepval is not the man; his Arthur is the brother of Robert (ex 203322 Lincs) and the local paper contains details of joining up etc but not where he died etc, I don't know if that helps so far?
Bob

[bobpike]

And I cannot find 21757 or 15934 on CWGC or S'died
Bob

[SFayers]

SFayers, on 21 October 2011 - 11:59 AM, said:

*Private 50156 Herbert Dowdy, 54th Machine Gun Battalion (formerly 163rd Machine Gun Company) MGC (Infantry), from Hunstanton, Norfolk, killed in action 19th September 1918 in Palestine; buried in Ramleh War Cemetery. Formerly Private 4806 Norfolk Regiment.

*Private 50166 Alfred Hensley, 163rd Machine Gun Company MGC (Infantry), died 8th February 1917 in Egypt; buried Kantara War Memorial Cemetery. Formerly Private 4610 Norfolk Regiment.

*Note: For these two men, both their MICs state theatre entry (2B) of 23rd November 1915 - I've yet to determine if either the 1/4th or 1/5th Norfolks received a replacement draft on Gallipoli at this time (they may, of course, have remained in Egypt until the Gallipoli evacuation).

Just an update for you Bob,

I've checked diary entries for both 1/4th and 1/5th Norfolks and there are no references to replacement drafts arriving at this time (and no further arrivals before the evacuation); so unless there's any definitive evidence out there somewhere to prove otherwise I'd suggest these two chaps probably didn't actually get to serve in Gallipoli.

cheers

Steve

[bobpike]

Steve,
Duly noted with thanks
Bob

[Bingo794]

bobpike, on 24 October 2011 - 01:43 PM, said:

I'll have to ask my friend who is doing this research. What I can recall is that 13689 on Thiepval is not the man; his Arthur is the brother of Robert (ex 203322 Lincs) and the local paper contains details of joining up etc but not where he died etc, I don't know if that helps so far?
Bob

I'll have a neb through Ancestry when I have a minute.

DW

[Bingo794]

bobpike, on 24 October 2011 - 01:49 PM, said:

And I cannot find 21757 or 15934 on CWGC or S'died
Bob

They often don't appear in either, though do appear on local memorials.

PM the info from your friend when you have it.

Cheers,

DW

[bobpike]

I've sent you the information, I have and I'm very grateful for your help
Bob

[bobpike]

Lce-Cpl Lionel George Fuller BURTON, 1st Field Company, Royal Engineers, Wounded in Action, 25 April 1915. Died of wounds 25 July 1916 at Pozieres, France, Puchevillers BC 2B

Major Philip Sydney Soane WOODFORDE, 1st Infantry Battalion B Company, Wounded in Action, 2 May 1915. Subsequently Died of Wounds, 6 May 1917, Grevillers BC 3D6

[purley]

bobpike, on 17 October 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

I am compiling a database of men who served on Gallipoli but who then died in other theatres of war, in other words Gallipoli veterans.
I have trawled through the 'Additional Information' section on CWGS and have (I think) identified all those where it mentions service at  Gallipoli, Dardanelles, Suvla Bay etc so I am intereted in those others who fit into this category of veterans whom members know of through their research.
Thank you
Bob Pike

There is a list on the Fred Potts VC site which lists all the men from the Berkshire Yeomanry who died in other theatres or regiments but I cannot guarantee that they were all involved in Gallipoli although many were. Go to http://www.pottsvctrust.org/YEH.htm

regards

John

[purley]

bobpike, on 17 October 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

I am compiling a database of men who served on Gallipoli but who then died in other theatres of war, in other words Gallipoli veterans.
I have trawled through the 'Additional Information' section on CWGS and have (I think) identified all those where it mentions service at  Gallipoli, Dardanelles, Suvla Bay etc so I am intereted in those others who fit into this category of veterans whom members know of through their research.
Thank you
Bob Pike

[purley]

Whhoops

sorry I missed an 'l' from the link - it should have read http://www.pottsvctrust.org/YED.html

regards

John

[Suddery]

bobpike, on 17 October 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

I am compiling a database of men who served on Gallipoli but who then died in other theatres of war, in other words Gallipoli veterans.
I have trawled through the 'Additional Information' section on CWGS and have (I think) identified all those where it mentions service at  Gallipoli, Dardanelles, Suvla Bay etc so I am intereted in those others who fit into this category of veterans whom members know of through their research.
Thank you
Bob Pike

Hi Bob,

This looks a fascinating exercise. I only research individual photographs so what I'm about to say may sound platitudinous but it is meant with the best of intentions. Would it be possible to back track through divisions then brigades then battalions etc to arrive at rolls of honour etc for units it is know know served at Gallipoli and then eliminate from your search those who died prior to eventual disembarkation dates and those who enlisted post ?.

Best of Luck

FGS