139 replies to this topic

[bobpike]

john,
Thanks for the link, I'll try it.
FGS thank you, it's definitely worth trying, I wonder if anyone has attempted such a process?
Bob

[old owl]

Hi Bob,

A couple which spring to mind:

Capt Eric Francis Brown, 5th Bn Wiltshire Regt, wounded at Gallipoli 10th August,1915, upon recovery proceeded to Mesopotamia to take part in the expediton which failed to relieve Kut where he was mortally wounded, dying as a result of these wounds on 1st April, 1917.

Sec Lieut Ian Cameron Macfarlane, 11th att'd 6th Bn Yorkshire Regt, served at Gallipoli from September, 1915, proceeded to France with his battalion and was killed in action 14th September, 1916.


and a third(maybe not quite what you are looking for?):

Capt Alfred Christopher Pearson, 9th Royal Warwicks, wounded at Gallipoli 9th August, 1915 and again in Mesopotamia in February, 1917.  He then became a Political Officer and was murdered by rebels in Kurdistan on 4th April, 1919.

Hope that you haven't already got these,

Robert

[old owl]

Just thought of another:

Capt. Alfred Maurice Benn, 9th Bn West Yorkshire Regt, served at Gallipoli from September,1915, proceeded with his battalion to France and was killed in action on 27th September,1916.

Robert

[ianjonescl]

This chap was on Remembered Today 18th September

information from Kenneth Morrison:
YOUNG, DOUGLAS CAMPBELL Lieut. R.F.A. 18 Sept. 1915
Douglas Campbell Young, Lieutenant 4th Lowland (Howitzer) Brigade, 52nd Division, Royal Field Artillery. Age 29.
Born 1886 at Blairlogie, Perthshire. Son of Robert Young of Hamilton Drive, Glasgow and of Castlehill, Rockcliffe. Served in Egypt and the Dardanelles. Died 18 September 1915 of dysentery at the 21st General Hospital Alexandria, buried in Alexandria (Chatby) Military and War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.

http://1914-1918.inv...&showentry=1358

[River97]

CAPT William Lancelot Young, 13th and 45th Battalions AIF, served Gallipoli, KIA France 7 June 1917.

536 CPL Alexander Sydney Yule, 1st Battalion AIF, served Gallipoli, wounded twice, KIA 22-25 July 1916, France.

Cheers Andy.

[Katie C]

Private George Harris, MGC 87th Company (service no. 21374), served in Gallipoli with the 1st Battalion border Regiment Regular Army (service no. 9947 or 9941 depending on who's transcribed it) and was part of the Cape Helles landings. Transferred to the MGC in February 1916. Died in Belgium on 3rd July 1917 and is buried at Canada Farm Cemetary.

I have a photo of his medal card if that's of any use, but sadly no service record.

[bobpike]

Thank you all.
Robert, yes Pearson is of interest.
Katie, a copy of the MIC would be very useful, if you could PM me it,
Bob

[Jim_Grundy]

Sorry, omitted this man from an earlier posting:

13167 Pte. William Henry Randle served with 9th Battalion, Notts & Derby, at Gallipoli. He was transferred to the 10th Battalion from which unit he deserted during the Battle of the Somme. He was executed for that offence on 25th November 1916 and is buried in Cavillon Communal Cemetery in France.

There's a photograph of his grave here: http://www.chrishobb...ypoole1916.htm.

[bobpike]

Thank you, Jim, it came as a bit of a surprise (although there is no reason why it should) seeing he had been SAD, although there were, of course, two on Gallipoli,
Bob

[bobpike]

Some more -


Hall SM-L/C-NZEF -WIR-AIF Burial Ground 1H21

Newman RC-Cpl-NZEF-AIR-Sucrerie MC Colincamps 1AA14

Winter W-Pte-NZEF-OIR-Dernancourt CCE 3A31

Jones F-2Lt-NZEF-OIR-Dernancourt CCE 3C37

[bobpike]

TURNBULL, ANDREW
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Marines
Unit Text: R.M. Medical Unit. R.N. Div.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 26/10/1917
Service No: Deal/3301(S)
Additional information: Son of Thomas Turnbull and the late Elizabeth Turnbull, of 133, Maple St., Hirst, Ashington, Northumberland; husband of the late Mary Ann Turnbull.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XI. D. 6.
Cemetery: DOZINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY

[oxandbucks]

*THOMAS  JOHN HYDE MM and Bar

Sergeant 117, 54th Bty.,14th Bde. Australian Field Artillery, 5th (Aus.) Div. (Brigade was part of B Group with 13th Brigade.)
Son of Thomas John and Sarah Ann Hyde. Native of Enfield. Middlesex. England. Emigrated Australia 1910.

Born Enfield. Enlisted Melbourne 19/8/14. Residence Melbourne.
Enlisted AIF 19/8/14, but with 21/2 years previous service in  AFA.  (1st Bty, 1st Bde. AFA)  Joined MEF Gallipoli 4/4/15.  Evacuated from Gallipoli with dysentery 28/7/15 to Egypt.  Rejoined unit at Gallipoli 31/11/15.  Arrived Alexandria after evacuation of Gallipoli 3/1/16.  Joined 54th Bty 10/3/16.  Embarked for BEF 20/6/16, arrived Marseilles 30/6/16.

At the beginning of October, the battery with the other 7 batteries forming B Group was at J8b6080 in a valley east of Westhoek and north of Glencorse Wood.  The batteries were preparing for the major Australian and British attach east of Polygon Wood on 4 October, and were under more or less constant shellfire.   Wounded in action 4/10/17.  Via 3rd Aus Field Amb and 17th CCS to 6 Gen Hosp Rouen 7/10/17.  Died of wounds on Wednesday 7th November 1917. Age 25.


PURCHASE, ARCHIBALD JOHN, Lance Corporal G/14756, 2nd Bn. Royal Fusiliers

Born and residence Enfield.  Enlisted Tottenham. Son of Henry Purchase, of 217, Baker St., Enfield, Middx. His brother Douglas Henry also fell.

Medal index card indicates to Balkans before 1 January 1916, implying service with the Bn. at Gallipoli before it moved to France in 1916. Killed in action 01/07/1916. Age 22. Commemorated Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A. THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

PURCHASE, DOUGLAS HENRY, Private CH/237(S), 1st R.M. Bn. R.N. Div. Royal Marine Light Infantry

Born Langport, Somerset. Son of Henry Purchase, of 217, Baker St., Enfield, Middx. His brother Archibald John also fell.

Deal Bn. MEF 28/2/15-25/6/15 GSW right ankle (2nd RN Field Ambulance = SW right leg Fractured?), rejoined 1st RM Bn. 8/8/15-19/9/15 Enteritis, rejoined 1st RM Bn. 26/1/16-12/11/16 Influenza, rejoined 1st RM Bn. 8/12/16-17/2/17 Discharged Dead. Killed in action17/02/1917. Age 28. Commemorated Pier and Face 1 A. THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

CWGC corrected service number from "PLY/273/S" to "PLY/237/S" in 1999 ; Brother of G/14756 Lance Corporal Archibald John Purchase, 2nd Bn. Royal Fusiliers, KIA 1/7/16 & CH/238/S Private H.A. Purchase, Chatham Bn. 6/2/15-17/5/15 Cut Tendon (septic, lost finger) ; Son of Henry Purchase, of 217 Baker St., Enfield, Middlesex

WILLIS, RICHARD ALFRED FRANCIS, Private PO/785(S), 2nd R.M. Bn. R.N. Div., Royal Marine Light Infantry

Eldest son of Richard John and Lilian Willis, of 29, Churchbury Rd., Baker St., Enfield, Middx.

A Clerk ; b.5/3/1896 ;

ex-London Z/623 Ordinary Seaman RNVR, enlisted 20/10/14, transferred to RMLI for Cyclist Company 14/12/14 ; Embarked RM Brigade 15/12/14 ; RM Cyclist Company 1915-16. Missing, assumed dead 28/04/1917. Age 20. Commemorated Bay 1. ARRAS MEMORIAL

Not sure about the last man as unclear whether the Cyclist Co. served on the Peninsula.

John

[tjpatti]

Some more for you, Bob - 34th Brigade, 11th Division:

L/Cpl Fred Latham 15952 11th Manchester Regiment
DoE (Date of Entry into War) 21/09/1915
KIA 17/06/1917
A.19 Irish House Cemetery

William Henry White 3/8893 "B" Coy 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
KIA 26/09/1916 aged 18
Pier & Face 7B Thiepval Memorial

John Roland Truscott 13176 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/15
KIA 07/08/1916 aged 21
I.F.B. Wailly Orchard Cemetery

Henry G. Parsons 3/7760 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
DoW 16/10/1917 aged 19
IX.G.8 Dozinghem Military Cemetery

William Charles Merritt 3/7242 5th then 6th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
KIA 07/07/1916
Pier & Face 7B Thiepval Memorial

[Thomas] Bernard Victor Melmoth 3/7512 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
Died 08/11/1918
L.D. J20 Hastings Cemetery, Sussex

Maurice Mann 13796 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915 (MIC shows Theatre of War as 2B - Service Record does not show action in Gallipoli)
KIA 14/04/1916
Pier & Face 7B Thiepval Memorial

Alexander Harvey 13342 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
DoW 01/10/1916 aged 20
VIII. C.163 Boulogne Eastern Cemetery

Alfred Ford 13339 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
Doe 22/09/1915
KIA 17/09/1916 aged 25
Pier & Face 7B Thiepval Memorial

William Duggan 13361 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
KIA 26/09/1916
Pier & Face 7B Thiepval Memorial

Edgar Thomas Banks 3/8892 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
DoW 06/10/1917
V. H. 5 Dozinghem Military Cemetery

William Edward Anderson 9828 Platoon 15 "D" Coy 5th Dorsetshire Regiment
DoE 22/09/1915
SAD 31/01/1917
I. P. 1 Gezaincourt Communal Cemetery Extension

I have 2 1/2 years worth of research on William Edward Anderson; please PM me if you want any information.

Kind regards

Teresa

[Andrew P]

Only had a chnace to go through A & B in my Fremantle database so far but these are the Gallipoli soldiers that fell later in the war.

No.1 Private Herbert Ainsworth – 28th Battalion AIF – KIA 29/07/1916 – Villers-Bretoneux Memorial
Lieutenant Mort McLeod Allan – 12th Battalion AIF – KIA 20/09/1917 – Menin gate Memorial
No.6192 – Private Anton Anderson – Pay Corps (ex 4th Field Ambulance) DofW 17/06/1918 Allonville Communal Cemetery
No.1580 – Sergeant Henry George Anderson – 48th Battalion (ex-16th Bn) KIA 11/04/1917 – Villers-Bretoneux Memorial
No.1101 – Cpl Henry Ernest Austin – 11th Battalion AIF – KIA 11/05/1918 – Borre British Cemetery
No.1508 – Private Henry Edward Ayling – 28th Battalion AIF – KIA 2/11/1917 – Menin Gate Memorial
No.1309 – Private Peter Douglas Barrett – 11th Battalion AIF – KIA 30/05/1916 – Rue Petillon Cemetery
Lieutenant Herbert Pearson Bateman – 28th Battalion AIF – KIA 05/08/1916 – Pozieres British Cemetery
No.1751 – Private Henry Graham Bath – 12th Battalion AIF – KIA 19/08/1916 – Villers-Bretoneux Memorial
No.1907a – Private Leslie Bath – 11th & 28th Battalion AIF – DofW 6/11/1917 – Boulogne Eastern Cemetery
No.505 – Private Charles Henry Bell – 27th Battalion AIF – KIA 5/11/1916 – Villers-Bretoneux Memorial
Lieutenant Matthew David Black – 11th Battalion – KIA 10/08/1918 – Heath Cemetery Harbonnieres
Bombardier Charles Whitbread Bourne – 3rd FA Bde & 12th FA Bde AIF – KIA 1/10/1917 – The Huts Cemetery
No.1716 – Private Herbert Bradford – 11th Battalion – KIA 02/11/1917 – Menin Gate Memorial
No.2550 – Private Frederick William Brewer – 16th Battalion AIF – KIA 30/08/1916 – Villers-Bretoneux Military Cemetery
No.555 – Private Joseph Briddick – 4th Battalion AIF – KIA 04/10/1917 – Menin Gate Memorial
No.783 – Private Thomas Richard Brittain – 12th Battalion AIF – Died 24th April 1917 – Durrington Cemetery
No.1786 – Private Alfred Brooke – 16th Battalion – KIA 23/06/1916 – Erquinghem-la-Lys Churchyard
No.2628 – Sgt William Gibson Bull – 16th Battalion AIF – KIA 16/08/1918 – Heath Cemetery Harbonnieres
No.810 – Sgt Jack Lea Burke – 28th Battalion AIF – DofW 19/03/1917 – St Sever Cemetery

Regards
Andrew

[bobpike]

John, Teresa, Andrew,
Very many thanks.
I believe Fred Latham received the MM aged 17?
I look forward Andrew to receiving C-Z when you have the time, please.
Teresa, I'd be most interested in your Gallipoli research for W E Anderson, please,
Bob

[CROONAERT]

bobpike, on 08 November 2011 - 07:36 AM, said:

I believe Fred Latham received the MM aged 17?

He was aged 18 years and 5 months when he took part in the action for which he was awarded the MM (Hessian Trench/Stuff Redoubt)...

Fred Latham bio...

[bobpike]

Thank you for the information about Latham,
Bob

[LeoMc]

Bob

Try these on, but definitely no guarantees & no money back.

Cheers

Paul

22nd BATTALION – SERVED AT GALLIPOLI AND WERE KIA LATER

104 Pte Adkins AR KIA Pozieres 27.7.16
1112 Pte Allatt AH KIA Pozieres 26.8.16
324 Pte Allen JN KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1991 L/Cpl Anderson A KIA Norieul 17.4.17
1878 L/Cpl Anderson F KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
773 Pte Anderson GJ KIA Herleville 18.8.18
107 Pte Andrews EE KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
549 Sgt Aspinall R KIA Lavieville 15.4.18
546 Pte Aubrey GV KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
295 Sgt Bailes JC KIA Hanebeek 21-22.9.17
1049 Sgt Baillie RG DOW Mt St Quentin 1.9.18
111 L/Cpl Baker AEL KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1503 Lt Barker AR KIA Lavieville 24.4.18
736 Pte Barton WG DOW Ribemont 19.5.18
1882 Pte Beck J KIA Pozieres 3.8.16
1887 Pte Bettles CL KIA Pozieres 29.7.16
118 Pte Birch CJ KIA Pozieres 27.7.16 – 4.8.16
332 Sgt Bishop ER DOW Pozieres 11.8.16
120 Pte Blackley W DOW Bois Grenier 24.6.16
784 Lt Blanchard R KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
333 Sgt Bleechmore KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1224 L/Cpl Blondett AJ KIA Dickebusch 11.11.17
1785 Lt Bowden CM KIA Ribemont 19.5.18
1178 Pte Bowden WG KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1121 Pte Boyce GH KIA Lavieville 13.4.18
123 Sgt Bregenzer ER KIA Herleville 18.8.18
1179 Pte Brimelow W KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
2014 Pte Brown ETE KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1213 Pte Brown H KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
Capt Buckley HC DAcc Fleurbaix 27.4.16
1122 Pte Bulman H KIA  Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
337 L/Cpl Burke TD KIA Pozieres 6.8.16
2019 Pte Butler A KIA Pozieres 26.8.16
1889 Pte Callander N KIA Le Sars 25.2.17
1691 L/Cpl Campbell W KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
378 Pte Carbellini G KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
348 Pte Cobban B KIA Pozieres 27.7.16
950 Pte Cole FH KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
349 Pte Coltman PE KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
351 Lt Condon RM KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
41 Pte Cook FE DOW Pozieres 28.7.16
134 Lt Corne W KIA Le Sars 26.2.17
76 Pte Cornish PJ DOI Pozieres 29.3.17
1185 Pte Cousins P KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
901a Cpl Coustley E KIA Pozieres 26.8.16
584 Sgt Craner AE KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
137 Pte Cronin PF KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
Capt Curnow HF KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
140 Cpl Davidson PJT KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1126 L/Cpl Dawes WJ KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
2033 Pte Dennett CH KIA Bullecourt 2.5.17
807 Pte Dermondy PG KIA Lavieville 23.4.18
615a Pte Dove WJ KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
365 Pte Draffin AV DOW Pozieres 7.8.16
149 L/Cpl Dyer H KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1071 Pte Egan HJ KIA Herleville 18.8.18
502 Pte Elliott E KIA Zonnebeke 3.10.17
1539 Pte Ellis E KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
593 Pte Ellis F KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1895 Pte Evans AW KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
985 Pte Evans H DOW Pozieres 7.8.16
503 Pte Evans WR DOW Bois Grenier 24.6.16
1713 Pte Fell VH KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
817 Cpl Firth DH KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
153 Sgt Fleming P KIA Le Sars 25.2.17
1026 Pte Forster CE KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
377 Sgt Gallagher GDA DOW Pozieres 11.8.16
820 Pte Gander JH KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
155 Pte Gascoyne A KIA Bullecourt 2.5.17
306 Cpl Gay T KIA Hanebeek 21-22.9.17
1546 Pte George J KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
159 Pte Glover AW DOW Pozieres 11.8.16
383 Pte Grant J KIA Pozieres 6.8.16
823 Pte Greenwood JH DOW Bois Grenier 21.6.16
Lt Greig GO KIA Westhoek Ridge 17.9.17
824 Lt Greig WC DOW Favrieul 30.4.17
1547 L/Cpl Grieve JA KIA Westhoek Ridge 18.9.17
2/Lt Griffin JR KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
163 Pte Grigsby A KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
1793 Pte Gutterson C KIA Pozieres 26.8.16
825 Pte Hall G DOW Zonnebeke 4.10.17
391 Pte Hallyburton A KIA Villers Brettoneux 27.7.18
506 Pte Hamilton JB KIA Bois Grenier 24.6.16
393 Sgt Hamilton NW KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
830 Pte Harding SF DOW Flers 19.11.16
1205 Pte Hardman CE KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
831 Pte Harle JB KIA Pozieres 27.6.16
1732 L/Cpl Harrison AC KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1903 Pte Hart HE KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
739 Pte Hatcher WL DOW Pozieres 7.8.16
394 Pte Hawkins AB KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
398 Sgt Heffernan J KIA Herleville 18.8.18
1762 Pte Hodson JJ KIA Pozieres 4.8.16
Capt Hogarth EG KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1081 Dvr Holman GB KIA Pozieres 6.8.16
1912 Sgt Hunter D KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1917 Cpl James WM DOW Zonnebeke 4.10.17
1082 Pte Johnson T KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
408 Sgt Johnson W KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
509 Pte Jones HRH KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
1549 Pte Jordan RJ DOW Fleurbaix 15.4.16
1694 Lt Kellaway FG KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
27 Pte Kennedy W DOW Pozieres 30.7.16
412 Lt Kennett C DOW Pozieres 17.8.16
1155 Pte King EJ KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
613 Lt King JB KIA Erquinghem 3.5.16
416 Pte Kinsey HL KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1116 L/Cpl Kirby WF DOW Pozieres 5.8.16
1156 Pte Kirkwood WJC KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
37 Pte Kruger JH DOW Gallwitz Trench 26.2.17
849 Pte Lee E KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
1925 Pte Lee JS DOW Hazebrouck 3.4.18
514 L/Cpl Le Maitre AC KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1572 Lt Lennon J KIA Franvillers 9.6.18
188 Pte Lever FD DOW Pozieres 28.7.16
189 Pte Lewis AE KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
191 Pte Lindsay J KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
1744 Pte Locarnini CB DOI Le Sars 20.2.17
622 Pte Lockwood FH KIA Ribemont 15.5.18
1926 L/Sgt Lowery JJ KIA Zonnebeke 2.10.17
379 Pte Luck ES KIA Favrieul 21.4.17
1772 Pte Lumsden CA KIA Erquinghem 2.6.16
980 L/Cpl Lutley VP KIA Pozieres 4.8.16
756 Pte MacDonald AD DOW Westhoek Ridge 18.9.17
Mjr Mackay MN KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1223 Lt Madden NJ KIA Herleville 18.8.18
1109 L/Cpl Martin C KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
319 Pte Mason AE KIA Pozieres 27.7.16
1980 2/Lt Massie HV DOW Malt Trench 8.3.17
1927 L/Cpl Mather CG KIA Broodseinde Ridge 4.10.17
1933 Pte Mathews EG KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.1.16
1936 Pte McAlpine AJ KIA Zonnebeke 3.10.18
1554 Pte McCann HJB KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
517 Lt McCartin LA KIA Herleville 18.8.18
2001 Lt McCormick NW KIA Flers 7.11.16
197 Pte McDermott J KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
518 Pte McIntyre AJ KIA Herleville 18.8.18
631 Pte McKenzie LFJA DOW Pozieres 7.8.16
437 Pte McKinnon CJ KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
634 L/Cpl McLean WR KIA Flers 8.11.16
203 Pte McLeod CJ KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1803 Pte McQualter DR KIA Ypres 11.10.17
1577 Pte Mitchell JEP KIA Beaurevoir 3.10.18
774 Pte Moore RCT KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1579 Pte Moore TJ KIA Mametz 3.11.16
2037 L/Cpl Morgan HJ KIA Pozieres 7.8.16
1979 Pte Morris A KIA Herleville 18.8.18
2000 Pte Morton JT KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1580 Pte Mulligan CL KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
433 Sgt Muntz EG KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
215 Cpl Murphy JJ KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
216 Pte Murray TJ KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
872 Pte Nelson WJ DOW Pozieres 29.7.16
100 Pte Newton I KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
221 Pte Nickson F KIA Le Sars 25.2.17
1814 Pte Norman HA KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
873 Pte Norris J KIA Herleville 18.8.18
655 L/Cpl Northcott CL KIA Westhoek Ridge 18.9.17
1171 Pte W O’Connell W KIA Pozieres 27.7.16
1714 CSM Oldham FH DOD Bazentin Camp 11.3.17
1941 Pte O’Leary E KIA Warneton 9.3.18
664 Pte O’Neill A KIA La Basseville 26.3.18
661 Pte Owen TH KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
879 Pte Pank A KIA Flers 13.11.16
970 2/Lt Parsons WH DOW La Basseville 26.3.18
1148 Sgt Peart EM DOW Pozieres 30.7.16
884 Pte Penrose JF KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
1724 Cpl Peterson JR KIA Mericourt 12.5.18
673 Pte Pople H KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
747 Pte Price DR KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
683 Pte Rands A KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
233 Cpl Rasdell FL KIA Cappy 27.8.18
1207 Cpl Rashleigh HG KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
540 Pte Ray MW KIA Westhoek Ridge 18.9.17
679 Pte Reed AT KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1945 Cpl Rees JH DOW Bullecourt 8.5.17
448 Cpl Reid J KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
2041 Pte Robertson DH KIA Hanebeek 22-23.9.17
1105 Pte Robson WO KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
1948 Pte Ross CF KIA Pozieres 27.7.16
1726a Pte Rowe EC DOW Pozieres 30.8.16
681 L/Cpl Russell L DOW Pozieres 27.7.18
1784 Pte Sanderson JW KIA Fleurbaix 27.4.16
1564 Pte Saxon JS KIA Pozieres 4.8.16
1989 Lt Scammel S KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1089 2/Lt Scanlon HD KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
897 Pte Scott GA DOI Mt Kemmel 9.12.17
1096 L/Cpl Seamark G KIA Pozieres 30.7.16
242 Sgt Sellgren CJL KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
243 Pte Sharp CH KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1610 Pte Sharp CW KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
1612 Pte Shields HV KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1087 Sgt Shields JH KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
Lt Skene-Smith A KIA Broodseinde Ridge 9.10.17
Capt Slater JH KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1958 L/Cpl Smart RJ KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
750 Sgt Smith EA KIA Franvillers 7.6.18
462 Pte Smith ER KIA Pozieres 28.8.16
2007 Pte Smith JB KIA Pozieres 28.8.16
248 Pte Smith W KIA Pozieres 7.8.16
464 Pte Smythe R KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1086 Pte Spargo HJ KIA Herbecourt 28.8.18
907 Pte Stevenson R KIA Pozieres 27.7.16
1149 Sgt Stone RG KIA Pozieres 27.7.16
1617 Cpl Storr JL DOW Ribemont 25.5.18
994 Pte Summersford AB KIA Norieul 17.4.17
1108 Sgt Sutton E KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
1190 Pte Swire A KIA Pozieres 4.8.16
471 Pte Symmons MR KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1972 Pte Tait PJ KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
697 Lt Tapner BS DOW Pozieres 29.7.16
1430 Sgt Taylor DE KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
922 Cpl Thomas J DOW Pozieres 31.7.16
1787 Pte Thompson AH KIA Pozieres 4.8.16
924 Pte Thorneycroft D KIA Pozieres 24.8.16
1969 Pte Topen J KIA Westhoek Ridge 17.9.17
1741 Pte Topping AE DOW Villers Bretonneux 10.8.18
928 Pte Townsend W KIA Zonnebeke 4.10.17
701 Sgt Trevena TS KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1069 Cpl Tucker CS KIA Pozieres 26.8.16
265 Pte Turner F KIA Flers 17.11.16
1090 Pte Twist CJ KIA Westhoek Ridge 18.9.17
929 Pte Underwood L KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
268 Pte Vienna E KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
1643 Pte Walker C DOW Pozieres 10.8.16
1628 Pte Walker GH KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
269 Pte Wall B KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
Lt Wall HMM KIA Cappy 27.8.18
270 Pte Wall J KIA Pozieres 5.8.16
271 Pte Wall R KIA Pozieres 8.8.16
273 L/Cpl Wallace PA DOW Fleurbaix 15.4.16
2094 Pte Ward EC KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
487 L/Cpl Watson AA KIA Pozieres 4.8.16
1200 Cpl Wetzel HC KIA Westhoek Ridge 17.9.17
2012 Pte White AT DOW St Vast 10.10.18
765 Pte White SR KIA Pozieres 26.8.16
493 Pte Wiedermann OB KIA Bullecourt 3.5.17
283 Cpl Wigger RB DOW Pozieres 5.8.18
285 Pte Williams P KIA Zonnebeke 3.10.17
61 S/Sgt Williamson H DOW Pozieres 6.8.16
713 Pte wilson AM KIA Ypres 20.9.17
1751 Sgt Wood EC KIA Pozieres 27.7.16-4.8.16
63 Pte Wright HE KIA Hanebeek 22-23.9.17
498 L/Cpl Wyeth G DOW Bois Grenier 23.6.16
2013 L/Cpl Wylie DJ DOW Bois Grenier 1.7.16
1630 Pte Wynn J KIA Le Barque 15.3.17
290 2/Lt  Yates AW DOW Pozieres 8.8.16
724 Lt Yeadon CF KIA Pozieres 5.8.16

[bobpike]

Paul,
Wow! Thank you very much. Are they more than likely to have served at Gallipoli, or only possibly? In other words, do I need to research each one individually?
kind regards,
Bob

[LeoMc]

Bob

Very likely.

I have used the history of the 22nd - "With the Twenty Second", revised edition, 2001. It includes the Battalion's nominal role and shows the Reinforcement Group to which each man belonged, as well as Date of Death for those KIA, DOW etc.

The 22nd landed on Gallipoli on 5 September 1915, as part of the 6th Brigade relieving elements of the 1st Division.Through a process of random selections, I established that the Originals, plus Reinforcement Groups 1,2 and 3 were those who served on the peninsula. A random selection of Reinf 4 men shows that they were not attached to the Battalion until 8 January 1916 - so I ruled them and subsequent Groups out.

I have verified a reasonable number (about 15%) of the later KIAs from the Originals + R1, R2, R3 by reference to their service records on the NAA site.

But I cant assure you that I have covered every instance where a man from one of these groups did not go to Gallipoli - eg its possible that a man who was taken sick after arrival in Egypt was hospitalised and did not rejoin the Battalion until after they returned to Egypt from Gallipoli

Its also possible that there will be the odd case where a man returned to Australia, re-enlisted and was KIA. For example I stumbled across the case of Lt HMM Wall, 19 Reinf, KIA 27.8.18. Lt Wall first enlisted with 6th Battalion and was in the landings on 25 April. He became ill in July 1915 and was returned to Australia. He re-enlisted and left Australia again on 11 May 1917, attached to the 22nd Battalion on 20.10.17and was KIA 27.8.18.

Subject to these minor qualifications, I'm very confident about the names I have given you.

Cheers

Paul

[bobpike]

That's good enough for me, Paul, thank you for your efforts, perhaps it'll provoke other people with similar research to contact me,
Bob

[Seasider70]

Bob

MATTHEWS, Alfred W.
Enlisted: 07/09/1914, Devizes.
Age given: Born Purton 1894.
Address / Next Of Kin, family details: Son of Mr Alfred W and Mrs Emily J Matthews, of Marston Meysey, Cricklade.

MIC details / Medal entitlement.
13467           5th (Service) Battalion Wiltshire Regiment.
1079             2nd Battalion, Leinster Regiment.

British War Medal, Victory Medal, 15 Star.

09/07/1915 Arrived in (2B) Balkans (Gallipoli) (Detail from MIC). Battalion diary records that the Battalion was in Malta destined for Gallipoli on this date.

From details on his MIC and detail of his death it is presumed that Alfred was wounded either on the Gallipoli Peninsula or in Mesopotamia where the 5th Battalion moved after its withdrawal from Gallipoli. After recovery he was drafted to his new Battalion and returned to France / Flanders.

Death / Burial / Memorial details.
Died of wounds received aged 22 on 21st October 1918. Buried in DADIZEELE NEW BRITISH CEMETERY I B 29.  (Moorslede, Belgium). Headstone inscription reads “REST IN PEACE”. Dadizeele new cemetery was constructed after the War, an extension to Dadizeele communal Cemetery. It was used to concentrate scattered burials from the area.

Evidence for inclusion on the Purton Parish list: SDGW listing.

MATTHEWS, Harry Robert Thomas.
Enlisted: 31/08/1915, Devizes (5th Battalion).
Address / Next Of Kin, family details: Purton. Grandmother Sarah of Upper Square, Purton.

MIC details / Medal entitlement.
9943           6th (Service) Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment.  

British War Medal, Victory Medal, 15 Star.

30/06/1915 Arrived in (2B) Balkans (Gallipoli) (Detail from MIC), (5th Battalion Wiltshire Regiment).
The 5th Battalion did not reach the peninsula until 16/07/1915.

From details on his MIC and detail of his death it is presumed that Alfred was wounded either on the Gallipoli Peninsula or in Mesopotamia where the 5th Battalion moved after its withdrawal from Gallipoli. After recovery he was drafted to the 6th Battalion as part of the Somme offensive preparation and returned to France / Flanders.

Death / Burial / Memorial details.
Killed in action on the 2nd July 1916 on the Somme Battlefield. Harry has no known grave, Remembered THIEPVAL MEMORIAL, Face13 A. (Somme, France). The memorial book in St Mary’s states burial somewhere in France.

Evidence for inclusion on the Purton Parish list: Purton War Memorial (Recorded as H.MATTHEWS), Memorial Board in St Mary’s Church, name listed in the Memorial book in St Mary’s Church, SDGW listing.

EDMONDS, Charles Reginald.
Enlisted: 01/09/1914, Devizes (3rd Battalion).
Age given: 18 years 1 month.
Occupation: Carpenter. Death certificate lists his occupation as Engine cleaner in railway factory.
Address / Next Of Kin, family details: Lydiard Green. Son of Alfred and Alice Edmonds, of Lydiard Green, Purton.  Brother of William Edmonds listed below.

MIC details / Medal entitlement.
10619         5th (Service) Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment.

British War Medal, Victory Medal, 15 Star.

Extracts from: Pension records, 5th Battalion War Diary.
20/12/1914 to 04/01/1915 Weymouth Hospital.
03/12/1915 Arrived (2B) Balkans (Gallipoli) (Detail from MIC) with the 5th Battalion.
29/02/1916 5th Battalion arrives in Basra, Mesopotamia (Iraq).
08/05/1919 Transferred to Z class.

Death / Burial / Memorial details.
Died age 22 on the 25th May 1920.  Buried in LYDIARD MILLICENT CHURCH CEMETERY grave G. 29 under a CWGC headstone. Headstone inscription reads “REST IN PEACE”.

The death certificate for Charles gives the cause of death as Phthisis (TB), his Father is listed as being present (The Dr present was A C Oakley-Brown). Even though he died in May 1920 Charles is recorded as an official War casualty, he lies under a CWGC headstone in a registered War grave.

Evidence for inclusion on the Purton Parish list: National Archive details (Service records), SDGW listing.

EDMONDS, William John.
Enlisted: 16/03/1915, Devizes (3rd Battalion).
Address / Next Of Kin, family details: Lydiard Green. Son of Alfred and Alice Edmonds, of Lydiard Green, Purton.

MIC details / Medal entitlement.
19171           1st and 5th (Service) Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment.

British War Medal, Victory Medal, 15 Star.

Extracts from: Wilshire Regiment records.
17/09/1915 Arrived in the Balkans (Gallipoli) (Detail from MIC). Battalion diary records that draft replacements joined the Battalion at Lala Baba.

January 1916 the 5th Battalion departed Gallipoli, February 1916 they arrived in Mesopotamia where it stayed for the remainder of the War. William is presumed to be wounded at either location and returned to UK for treatment then drafted to the 1st Battalion Wiltshire Regiment on mainland Europe.  

30/01/1917 Listed on Wiltshire records as embarking, joining the Infantry Base Depot the next day in France.
04/03/1917 Joined the 1st Battalion, with 5 OR’s at Mont Des Cats in France where they were undertaking training.
30/01/1918 to 13/02/1918 leave.
04/04/1918 Appointed Lance Corporal
12/04/1918 Reported missing.

Death / Burial / Memorial details.
Killed in action aged 23 on the 12th April 1918. William has no known grave, but his name is remembered on PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL Panel 8. (Comines-Warneton, Belgium). William is remembered on the War Memorial in Lydiard Millicent.

DASH, Percy Edward.
Enlisted: 26/05/1915, Devizes (3rd Battalion). Percy was 17 years old on enlistment.
Age given: Born October 1897, Purton.
Address / Next Of Kin, family details: Swindon. Son of Francis James and Ellen Dash, of 36 Clifton Street, Swindon.

MIC details / Medal entitlement.
20888           5th (Service) Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment.

British War Medal, Victory Medal, 15 Star.

Extracts from: 5th Battalion War Diary.
17/11/1915 Arrived in 2( Balkans (Gallipoli). (Detail from MIC).
29/02/1916 5th Battalion arrives in Basra, Mesopotamia (Iraq).
09/04/1916 The Battalion was in contact with Turks at Sannaiyat.

Death / Burial / Memorial details.
Killed in action aged 18 on the 9th April 1916 in Mesopotamia (Iraq). Percy is buried in AMARA WAR CEMETERY, XVI. L. 1. (Mesopotamia, Iraq).

Evidence for inclusion on the Purton Parish list: SDGW listing.

LITTEN, Frederick Henry.
Enlisted: 11/05/1915, Devizes (3rd Battalion).
Age given: Born Purton.
Address / Next Of Kin, family details: Husband of A E Litten, (Married 1913) Hungerford. Resident of 4, Council Houses, Inkpen Common, Berkshire.

MIC details / Medal entitlement.
20723         5th (Service) Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment.

British War Medal, Victory Medal, 15 Star.

Extracts from: 5th Battalion War Diary.
17/11/1915 Arrived (2B) Balkans (Gallipoli) (Detail from MIC).
29/02/1916 5th Battalion arrives in Basra, Mesopotamia (Iraq).
25/01/1917 Trenches, Mesopotamia.

Death / Burial / Memorial details.
Killed in action aged 25 on the 25th January 1917 in Mesopotamia.   Frederick has no known grave, remembered on AMARA WAR CEMETERY, XVII. A. 11. (Mesopotamia, Iraq).

Evidence for inclusion on the Purton Parish list: SDGW listing.


Regards

Bob

[bobpike]

Bob,
Thank you very much. I see the second Matthews is HTR on CWGC not HRT,
Kind Regards,
Bob

[Seasider70]

Bob

No problem, HTR / HRT / RTH !!! the joys of researching the Great war.

Still not as bad as this chap;

P Cook - war memorial
Percy Cook - Memorial Book
G Cook - CWGC headstone
Elijah Cook - Birth / Death cert & Regimental archives


go steady, will check to see if i have any more for you

Bob

[bobpike]

Now that really is a cracker, it must have been a researcher's nightmare, but you solved it, well done!