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#1 flintwich

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:38 PM

I was sent to one of our new buildings at work today, Church house, 1 Millbank, London and was pleased to see, inside the door a memorial on the wall dedicated to the men of that office who gave their lives in the Great War.

Has anyone seen this before ?

I shall endeavour to research the names on the memorial

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 08:00 AM

hi Al
if you could post a photo and a list of the names on the memorial it would Help

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 08:17 AM

The original company name would also help. I would expect to be able to find a memorial in so prominent a location on the UK national Inventory of War Memorials, but my searches didn't succeed.


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Unless this one has been moved again?

http://www.ukniwm.or...mUkniwmSearch/1

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 08:38 AM

It appears to be the the HQ of the Church Commissioners but I don't know how long they have been there.
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 09:29 AM

Here is the image of the memorial.

Haven't yet found out what office was there at the time, but has long been the home of the Church Commissioners.
Was recently acquired by the parliamentary estate and now houses offices and meeting rooms for the House of Lords

If you would like a better image, pm me.

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 10:17 AM

Leonard Henry Druett
Birth Place: Hornsey
Residence: Alexandra Park
Death Date: 20 Dec 1915
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: London
Rank: L/Corporal
Regiment: London Regiment
Battalion: 15th (County of London) Battalion (P.W.O. Civil Service Rifles)
Number: 1689
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre


Lawrence Flanagan
Residence: Balham
Death Date: 22 Sep 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: E. London
Rank: Private
Regiment: London Regiment
Battalion: 15th (County of London) Battalion (P.W.O. Civil Service Rifles)
Number: 3207
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: M.M.


Name: Thomas Maurice Norris
Birth Place: Westminster
Residence: Pimlico
Death Date: 15 Sep 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: London
Rank: Private
Regiment: London Regiment
Battalion: 19th (County of London) Battalion (St. Pancras)
Number: 612226
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 7164, K.R.R.C.

Herbert Thain Peek
Death Date: 14 Jul 1916
Rank: 2/Lieutenant (T)
Regiment: Durham Light Infantry
Battalion: 15th Battalion
Type of Casualty: Killed in action


Ronald John Savill
Death Date: 30 Apr 1917
Rank: 2/Lieutenant
Regiment: Essex Regiment
Battalion: 3rd Battalion
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Comments: Att 9 B

John Henry Wisdom
Birth Place: Dublin
Death Date: 26 Jan 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Hammersmith, London
Rank: Private
Regiment: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line (incl. Yeomanry and Imperial Camel Corps)
Battalion: 2nd Dragoon Guards (Queens Bays)
Number: 8641
Type of Casualty: Killed in action

I dont want to make it to easy I have left you one to find

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 10:27 AM

It may well be that this is NOT included in the National Inventory. If so they would definitely appreciate a photograph, and the text at the head of the memorial. That is unless someone else can find it on their website?


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Posted 22 October 2011 - 10:32 AM

Ray
You have evidently been in SDGW, but there is another clue in CWGC: Wisdom's entry there has 'enlisted from the Ecclesiastical Commission'.
Peek's CWGC data includes RAMC as a secondary unit.
Flanagan is credited with the MM.
Otherwise there is little or nothing in common between these men, save their demise.

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:43 AM






In Memory of
Captain JAMES ARTHUR McCULLOCH

1st/8th Bn., Lancashire Fusiliers
who died age 35
on 27 September 1918
Son of James and Kate McCulloch; husband of Doris Helen McCulloch, of West Hill House, Worplesdon Hill, Woking.
Remembered with honour
RIBECOURT ROAD CEMETERY, TRESCAULT











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Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:47 AM

It may well be that this is NOT included in the National Inventory. If so they would definitely appreciate a photograph, and the text at the head of the memorial. That is unless someone else can find it on their website?


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Here's the text, pm for a better image
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:51 AM

It may well be that this is NOT included in the National Inventory. If so they would definitely appreciate a photograph, and the text at the head of the memorial. That is unless someone else can find it on their website?


Keith


This was a sneaky opportunity photo on my phone.

If needed, I shall get in touch with Black Rod for permission to photograph this and the other War Memorials in the House of Lords and House of Commons.as

photography of these is not usually permitted.

Al

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:02 PM

Might be worth contacting NIWM first. They probably have the Commons and Lords ones listed, unless there is some embargo.

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 03:25 PM

Leonard Henry Druett appears to be well documented. He was in the office of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners at the outbreak of war.

Click here

and here

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 03:40 PM

Captain James Arthur MCCULLOCH Biography Found Here


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Posted 22 October 2011 - 03:52 PM

another one with a Ecclesiastical Commissioners Connection

From The London Gazette

FOR REGISTRATION AS TEMPORARY BOY
CLERKS.
Arthur Stanley Baldwin, Victor Felix Germeuil
Bonnaud, William Brown, Cuthbert Wynne
Phillips, Stanley Gilbert Band all, Geoffrey
Jabez Granville Stanton.
September 16, 1913.

AFTER OPEN COMPETITION.
Second Division: Clerk—Edward St. Hilary
Lingwood.
Ecclesiastical Commission: Junior Clerk—Herbert
Thain Peek.
Exchequer and Audit Department: Examiner—
Alan Edward Aflalo Jacobs.
Inland Eevenue: Second Class Clerk in the
Estate Duty Office—Allan Douglas Croinbie.
National Health Insurance Joint Committee:
Computer—George Henry Maddex.
Office of Woods: Assistant Clerk (Abstractor)—
Eric Robert Brittenden Harloc


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Posted 22 October 2011 - 04:05 PM

McCulloch's service record is in WO 339/13650.

Peek's is in WO 339/48487.

Savill's is in WO 339/60865.

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 04:53 PM

Al

Could you please amend the title.

The Victor Meldrew in me is cringing at the word WARR, just as it does for Tyne Cott and Boar War.

Thank you

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 06:27 PM

Some fantastic work in tracing these men.

All of this from a lucky break whilst at work

Thank you everyone
Al

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 06:42 PM

Al

Could you please amend the title.

The Victor Meldrew in me is cringing at the word WARR, just as it does for Tyne Cott and Boar War.

Thank you

Peter



Job done.
I sea what you mean lol

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 08:58 PM

All seven can be found on the 1911 census with further family details

the only thing they all have in common is that they were all Civil servants all employed as clerks .for the Ecclesiastical Commissioners

Regards Ray