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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:54 pm
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Vehicle mounted Anti-Aircraft Gun in action with full crew, including Range Finder and Spotter.
Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:03 pm
I don't know whether there is anything on the photo to give a clue to the site but it isn't necessarily an Australian unit, even though they're wearing slouched hats. The gun is a 13-pdr 6-cwt on the Mark 1 high-angle mount, introduced in early 1915 and moved to lesser theatres from France as supplies of the 13-pdr 9-cwt became available. 24th and 32nd AA Sections were operational with this type of gun in Salonika in 1916, when this type of hat was issued to troops as sun-hats were unavailable in sufficient quantity. There's an IWM illustrations showing one of them on the LLT section on AA units.
Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:02 pm
Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:33 pm
I have no idea about Australian AA units or which types of gun they used but those on the Western front, for example, would be very unlikely to have used the 6-cwt gun on this mount much after the Autumn of 1915 - assuming they received similar priority as their British counterparts. The 6-cwt on the Mark 2 mount was a vast improvement (higher elevation and the loss of the upper spring-case) and the 9-cwt, a much superior gun, was arriving in numbers by then. It's impossible to be certain but the ridge-line in the background does look a lot like the area to the SW of Lake Doiran where these guns were employed. We visited an AA position near what was then known as Ardzan last year with the Salonika Campaign Society trip and the gentle rise of the slope gave a crest much like this.
Keith - guessing like mad!!
Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:39 pm
Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:24 am
They're not stone weights but wooden blocks and planks. I think you can see a handle on the largest piece on the RHS of the lorry. The brakes on these things would have been appallingly bad by modern standards and only on the back wheels in all likelihood. Scotches were placed against all four wheels but if the platform bounced every time the gun fired they'd move. In fact, the task of the No 11 (one of the two ASC men on a gun's detachment) was to make sure the scotches were kept tight during an action. To minimise movement of this kind, there were four jacks under the platform. The front set are usually just behind the cab and don't appear to have been set but may be the angled 'arm'. The rear jacks on this lorry are boards that move horizontally in guides and whose outer ends are supported on a large wooden block that is grooved to take the end of the board. There's no facility to make up any difference in height so the crew has packed the underside of the large block with sections of wood.
The picture is packed with details, the shell being loaded, the vehicle's rear stone weights, the uniforms and hats, the Rangefinder and the Spotter's equipment.
Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:37 pm
The 1919 published book described this vehicle as " A Motor Drawn Cannon with Armour used to fight Zeppelins and Aeroplanes ".
Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:30 pm
Its a 1911 Daimler balloon gun. Only one built
Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:51 pm
The vehicle appears in a number of books, usually erroneously titled. The photo you posted shows it in its final form - fully armoured- and closed down. The one I posted shows it with the top of the cab folded down. It actually started life as an open vehicle with only a simple gun shield and the armour was added later. Germany built a number of lorry based balloon guns at this time. AFAIK none got past the prototype stage and none saw action in WW1
Many thanks for that very interesting information. The photograph I posted, came from an American Book published immediately after WW1 in 1919 - " History's Greatest War - A Pictorial Narrative ".
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Will's WW1 Military Motors - Card No.12 - British Motor Raft.
" The Motor Raft, or Flying Bridge is used for conveying motor cars, &c, across a river. The raft, on which the car is securely fixed, is attached to a long bouoyed cable - ".
Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:18 am