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[auchonvillerssomme]

I would think the India abbreviations might be Honourable Vice Consul.

[Fedelmar]

That sounds feasible ... but would he still be using it in Australia all those years after he was in India?

[auchonvillerssomme]

Not sure, I've seen stranger things.

[Fedelmar]

Haaaaaaa ... and what could be stranger than this story???

[centurion]

Fedelmar, on 09 January 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

I am inclined to think it stands for something else ... the question is WHAT???  

See my post about 2 or 3 up on the Indian magistrates http://1914-1918.inv...dpost&p=1692211 

[centurion]

auchonvillerssomme, on 09 January 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

I would think the India abbreviations might be Honourable Vice Consul.

Honourable Vice Chancellor is and was an Indian senior magistrate - see my earlier post  http://1914-1918.inv...dpost&p=1692211

[NigelP]

centurion, on 09 January 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

However I think I've solved the mystery. During his time in India he must have been a senior magistrate or Judge. Lists of members of senior benches produced by the Indian Ministry of Justice to this day still show senior magistrates  with VC after their name (see extract)

LIST OF HON'BLE V.C./ MEMBERS
ACCCORDING TO THEIR DUE DATE OF RETIREMENT
(AS ON 01.11.2011)
MAY – DECEMBER 2011

1. SH. N. D. RAGHAVAN VC (J) BANGALORE BENCH 10.11.2011
2. SH. JOG SINGH M (J) BOMBAY BENCH 06.12.2011
3. SH. HRIDAY NARAIN M (A) JABALPUR BENCH 14.12.2011
4. SH. K.S. SUGATHAN M (A) AHMEDABAD BENCH 25.12.2011
5. SH. JUSTICE WAJAHAT ALI SHAH M (J) AHMEDABAD BENCH 30.12.2011

I won't bore by showing the complete list but either the Indian judicary is stuffed with Victoria Cross holders or it stands for something else

I think VC here means vice-chair in the same way as the English magistracy is organised.  each bench has a chairman and one or more v ice-chairman

Nigel

[Fedelmar]

So in the case of the Vice Chancellor thingy ... why would he still be using it in Australia?

[centurion]

NigelP, on 09 January 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

I think VC here means vice-chair in the same way as the English magistracy is organised.  each bench has a chairman and one or more v ice-chairman

Nigel

Vice Chancellor

[centurion]

Fedelmar, on 09 January 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

So in the case of the Vice Chancellor thingy ... why would he still be using it in Australia?

As it was an honoury rank he'd still hold it even if he didn't use it - don't forget somebody else wrote the inscription

[Fedelmar]

Okay ... that sounds about right.

Thanks heaps people ... much appreciated.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

[auchonvillerssomme]

But are these relevent that far back, I have never come across any ex-colonial official being called vice chancellor before, Vice Consul, yes.

[Fedelmar]

Mmmm ... I thought Vice Consul as there is something clanging around in the memory banks about officers that served in Indian and made there way to Australia using this term.  I seem to recall they had an ongoing relationship of some sort with India.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

[centurion]

auchonvillerssomme, on 09 January 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

But are these relevent that far back, I have never come across any ex-colonial official being called vice chancellor before, Vice Consul, yes.

A vice consul is someone who provides consular services to citizens of his country in a foreign one. As such it would have been a nonsense at the time to have had a British Vice Consul in Australia or India

[Fedelmar]

Strewth  ... so we are no further advanced than before

[Will I Davies]

TRAJAN, on 09 January 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Google 'Indian judiciary VC' and you get:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Thiruvananthapuram

And then, under Jurists

• Prof.Dr. N.R. Madhava Menon, Member, Centre-State Relations Commission of the Government of India, former VC of National Law School of India, Bangalore and NUJS Kolkata
• Prof. Dr. G. Mohan Gopal, Director, National Judicial Academy of India, former VC, National Law School of India, Bangalore, former Adjunct Professor, Georgetown University Law Center, Washington, DC, former Chief Counsel of the World Bank, Washington, DC

In these cases I assume Vice Chancellor...

Trajan

Or even

Chief/Senior Counsel and...........Vice Counsel ( VC)

Will