Here are two photos of my great-uncle in 1917, with two different motorbikes. He was in training as a RNAS officer at the time. The plate number of the less clear photo is LR1975. Can anyone identify them please?
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It might be worth contacting the Vintage Motorcycle Club if you want to nail it down. A Sunbeam specialist may be able to confirm or deny.
Definitely a mystery. Tom is right about the final drive being on the right, but apart from that and the exhaust it looks very similar to some catalogue shots of early Sunbeams I have in a book.
Just a point of note from the book that may or may not help regarding Sunbeams in the First World War- "3.5hp and 8hp Sunbeams were used by the governments of England, France, Italy and Russia, in both WD green and black and gold finishes. Machines in use in England are shown with OHMS on the front number plate". (Illustrated history of Sunbeam bicycles and motorcycles by Robert Cordon Champ).
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Nice to see a good result Jon!
Just out of interest did they say if they were supplied to the forces? Just curious about the soldier used in the advertising.
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I have just a little to add about the P&M, it is at least a 1915 model and would be no later than 1917 for obvious reasons. However if the pic was taken in 1917 as said then I would think it would be a '15 or '16 as it doesn't look all that new. If the pic in certain areas was a bit clearer then I could narrow it down a bit further.
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Very difficult to identify the sidecar from that picture but as P&M made their own sidecar I would imagine it to be one of these. See attached pic.