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#1 Wings5797

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:35 PM

Hi everybody.
Can someone please advise me on the cap badge backing/rosette of the 1914 Gordon Highlanders glengary.
Over the years have seen examples of both black silk rosette and Gordon tartan patch but would be most grateful for clarification for this particular year.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:47 PM

Hi everybody.
Can someone please advise me on the cap badge backing/rosette of the 1914 Gordon Highlanders glengary.
Over the years have seen examples of both black silk rosette and Gordon tartan patch but would be most grateful for clarification for this particular year.

Many thanks
Keith


On the Glengarry (Black with dicing) I have only ever seen a silk rosette. I have seen Tam O'shanters (Khaki)with a patch of tartan behind the badge but I have never seen (in life or in a picture) a tartan patch on a Gordons' Glengarry.
In 1914 soldiers would have been wearing the Glengarry, I believe Tams were not introduced into general service until slightly later (1915?)
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

According to the model sculptor this chap is a 1914 Sergeant in the Gordon Highlanders 'accurate in every detail'.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:55 PM

Hi Chris,

Many thanks, I knew you would come up with the goods yet again.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:08 PM

Hi sandie,
I know this model very well and have respected the sculptor, Carl Reid for many years. As you say the model is very accurate for this period. Unfortunately Carl did not paint this example which is painted with the tartan patch behind the cap badge and on the upper left arm. I believe that both are incorrect?

Thank you for your input

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:33 PM

On the Glengarry (Black with dicing) I have only ever seen a silk rosette. I have seen Tam O'shanters (Khaki)with a patch of tartan behind the badge but I have never seen (in life or in a picture) a tartan patch on a Gordons' Glengarry.
In 1914 soldiers would have been wearing the Glengarry, I believe Tams were not introduced into general service until slightly later (1915?)
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Gordons pattern glengarry - RACD Pattern 8089/194 of July 10th 1914 - was blue with a scarlet tourie (and scarlet, white and green dicing band).

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:56 PM

Gordons pattern glengarry - RACD Pattern 8089/194 of July 10th 1914 - was blue with a scarlet tourie (and scarlet, white and green dicing band).

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My error...apologies (although the blue is very very dark :whistle: )
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:43 PM

Hi GT,
Thank you for that information, I never concidered that the dicing was anything other than red, white and Navy Blue,

I have seen many a miniature figure painter pontificate the shade of blue dicing on this head gear. What a scoop.

Great stuff, kind regards
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:46 AM

My error...apologies (although the blue is very very dark :whistle: )
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Very dark blue indeed Chris!! There was also a 1 omitted from the pattern number: should be RACD Pattern 8089/1914. We are indebted, as usual, to Joe for the detail.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:28 AM

Hello,

I have a photo of a Seaforth Highlander with a Glengarry that has a tartan patch behind the badge. I don't have access to a scanner to show it right now.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 04:35 PM

Hi Owain,

Thank you for your input. Do you know the date that the photograph was taken?
If you ever have the where with all to post the picture I would love to see it.

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Keith