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#51 trenchtrotter

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:46 PM

OK I have admitted it is a possibly camo finish...why so hard for you to acknowledge that!

As for the german pictures where is your evidence they are camo? One looks a really early square dip helmet?

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:02 PM

As to helmets turning up with camo paint attatched with the german M16 here in France over the past 2 years have noticed more than a few converted to the M18 telephone/ signals varaition with the Humming Bird varaition of camo ,in fact not just 1 but all of them ! ,there is also some one painting WW2 British Helmets here in Northern France with all sorts of spurious designs and mottos as well as putting USSAF style Vargas dsigns and nose art to M1 USA Helmets .

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:09 PM

View Posttrenchtrotter, on 13 February 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

As for the german pictures where is your evidence they are camo?
My eyes. I've enhanced them as much as I can, but I fully expected another "I can't see it!" That's all right.

Buy Haselgrove and Radovic's Helmets of the First World War. They have images of German helmets with camouflage patterns that are difficult to discern in modern color photos, taken under bright lights.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:57 PM

I have bought the book plus the two later volumes about WW1 helmets. And guess what I still cant see it in the two images of german however the left hand image if I stand in one leg, squint, hold my arm out at 37 degrees and whistle dixie....maybe!

Seriously and I mean no disrespect I will disagree with you however as I have stated and still not acknowledged I agree maybe a very small amout of US helmets were camo in the field and the La Chalade may be an example.

Regards in what is a feisty debate.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 02:30 AM

View Posttrenchtrotter, on 13 February 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

And guess what I still cant see it in the two images of german however the left hand image if I stand in one leg, squint, hold my arm out at 37 degrees and whistle dixie....maybe!
That's okay. If you have Helmets of the First World War you'll see plenty of color photos of German helmets with camouflage patterns that are barely discernible. The broad swathes of color are as apparent to me as the camouflage on the American helmets. They're faint but visible. If you can't see them, you can't see them.