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#1 odin432

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:41 PM

Anyone have any information on this unit as my Great grandad Albert Edward Jones was serving with them before the war,

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 04:38 PM

The Royal Anglesey RE was formerly Milita, and sent a special service company to the S.African War 1900-02. After 1908 a Special Reserve outfit, based at Kingsbridge Camp on the outskirts of Beaumaris.

Forum member Rogin knows more about them then anyone else I can think of, if you want to PM him.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 06:56 PM

Thanks Clive
Was it Kingsbridge camp that had the mock trenches in as I have seen an arial photo of that area ?

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:44 PM

That's right. I think there are views (and photos of buildings & some RARE personnel) on the Penmon website. The nearby parish church at Llanfaes contains some memorials to officers of the unit but not (from long-ago recollection) of WW1 date.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:03 AM



There were 3 Companies in 1914

1st Siege Company Royal Anglesey, RE -
National Archive War Diary Reference WO95/485


2nd Siege Company Royal Anglesey, RE
National Archive War Diary Reference WO95/403
3rd Railway Company Royal Anglesey, RE
National Archive War Diary Reference WO95/4052

By December 1914 all were serving with GHQ Troops, RE

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:36 PM

Hi Odin,

Pre war volunteers for Ryl Ang R.E. would sign on for a period of 6 years, after preliminary training they would attend another 5 years of annual training's, lasting between 3 - 5 weeks. The trainings would be spent at Kingsbridge camp - nr Llanfaes, but if the man was attached to the Railway Company he would also have to spend some of the training at Longmoor, Hamps(home of the reguilar R.E. Railway coy's). For WW1 service it seems that your g-g'father was not recalled to the regiment.

As for the trenches they were not physically part of the camp but were sited a couple of miles away.



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Posted 07 March 2012 - 03:20 AM

Thanks again Gents
Lucky that I have Relation living in Llanfaes and im hopeing to get up there in April to see them, if not will go up in August for a few days, the thing is when did he join the Royal Anglesey Engineers ? I think that there is a small records office on Anglesey so will take a trip to it when im up there,
Intresting info that Im greatful for
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:06 AM

Dave,
There ought in theory to be a set of service records covering his 6 years service, which could have started any time after the age of 17, though more likely to be at the time he was resident in Beaumaris.

The original service records for the Militia before 1908 are usually in category WO96 at the National Archives, Kew. The company Findmypast has copied and made these available online since last year (on a payment/subscription basis). I had a look at the free index, but an Albert / Albert Edward Jones born 1878 (+/- 5 yrs) in Flintshire or Denbighshire threw up few if any likely candidates.

If he went over into the Special Reserve after 1908 the records should be with the rest of the Army service papers from the WW1 era. These, as you know, were bombed in 1940 and two-thirds destroyed. I couldn't see him in the Ancestry index amongst quite a lot of similarly-named men (but as you know, indexes are fickle).

Otherwise I confess I'm not sure where I'd look - the Anglesey County Records Office at Llangefni might be able to tell you what they hold, or maybe Rogin again might have a better idea than me.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 04:46 AM

Clive
Have contacted one of my relations who lives only four fields away fron the earth works in Llanfeas, he has also looked into the Jones and Roberts family History so together we will try and sort it out via Facebook and a meeting in August, then we will go to the Anglesey Records office and see what they have on former members of the Engineers, in the meantime I have 6 other family members that fought in WW1 to keep me occupied, which means a lot of reading up on other units both pre war and great war, but I will keep in contact as things come to light,
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:05 PM

Dave,


The Anglesey Archives do not hold any of the regiments records, muster books, etc, in fact nobody seems to know where they are! I've been interested in the regiment for over 15 years and during that time have written to various museums, libraries, archives, universities, etc in the hunt for their records, etc but to no avail and have come to the conclusion that they were either destroyed on the demise of the regiment or placed somewhere (an attic/cellar?) for safekeeping and forgotten about!

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:07 PM

Dave

Find my Past has the following.

Boer War 1889-1902 - Soldier details.

Name: Jones A. F.
Rank: Sapper.
Number: 3703.
Unit: Royal Angelsey(Militia) Royal Engineers.
Notes: " A " Company.
Medal Roll:
Roll Page
161 0 Two entries.

It could be a bad transcription, unable to view the original, or it could be the wrong person.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:06 PM

Bob,
I think the transcription is right - I had one A.F.Jones on a manuscript list I made from the original Roll many years ago.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:18 AM

Transcription is correct A.F. Jones - have copy of original roll

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:34 AM

Gentlemen, thank you for putting the record strait. I'll keep trying.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:14 PM

Geraint and Bob
Thanks for taking the time to help Guys
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