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Opinions on officer's cap please

Started by zippy.72 , Mar 24 2012 05:25 PM

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#1 zippy.72

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:27 PM

Bought this today at a car boot sale (£8!)
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#2 Andrew Upton

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

Material and styling look like a WW2 era or later cap to me. Given the peaks apparent condition, I suspect you won't be getting much fine dining off any profit you make on your £8 investment... :innocent:

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:00 PM

With the Queen being quoted on the lining, there's no doubt it is post WW2.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:35 PM

View PostEx-boy, on 24 March 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

With the Queen being quoted on the lining, there's no doubt it is post WW2.

No not neccessarily!!

Queen Mary, I believe, granted Warrants of Appointment to various establishments/companies and some of these could date back to around WW1 or soon after :thumbsup:

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:36 PM

I would say going by where it was made "38 New Bond St, London, it would be a officers, rather and other ranks.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:44 PM

The firm is still going today, perhaps they can identify it accurately for you.  They are apparently the biggest supplier of hats to the army since the Second World War.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:58 PM

Yes, I have emailed them. I thought the same about the 'Her Majesty' warrant - it could be Queen Mary or Queen Mother? Looking at similar on Ebay, it would appear to be WW2 but will wait and see what the firm can add. They are no longer at New Bond Street.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

If the reference to hm The Queen meant one of the Queen Mothers, it would surely say so.  As this type of Cap SD was unknown in Queen Victoria's day it must be from the current reign.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:05 PM

I'm no expert on royalty, but I thought only the monarch was HM, and a consort would be HRH.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:12 PM

Another thought:  The cipher shown, but too small in the lower photo, and missing from the centre one, could add extra ammunition I believe.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:04 PM

Cypher not clear. I have seen references to 'Her Majesty Queen Mary' on internet

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

View Postzippy.72, on 24 March 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

Bought this today at a car boot sale (£8!)
Can anybody tell what period it belongs to please

During the WW1 period Herbert Johnson held a Royal Warrant as Hatters to King George V ( see attached period advertisement for Herbert Johnson ), and as such, any gentleman's hat, particularly any military cap, made by Herbert Johnson, would without doubt, have displayed the Royal Warrant for King George V i.e. " By Appointment to His Majesty The King ".
The Royal Warrant in your cap refers to H.M. Queen Elizabeth 11.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:12 PM

Version of Herbert Johnson's H.M. Queen Elizabeth 11 maker's hat diamond.
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