Is anyone visiting Haidar Pasha Cemetery in the near future, I have a request for one grave photo.
Thank you
Peter
Remembered Today:
0
Haidar Pasha Cemetery, Istanbul
Started by
Peter Bennett
, Apr 19 2012 09:02 AM
12 replies to this topic
#1
Peter Bennett
-
- Old Sweats
- 2,395 posts
Brigadier-General
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, England.
Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:02 AM
#2
Hedley Malloch
-
- Old Sweats
- 1,106 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Male
Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:02 PM
The best of luck, Peter. Haidar Pasha CWGC is next to Turkish Army military establishment (a military hospital) and as with all Turksih military bases, any form of photography there is strictly forbidden. I've been prevented from taking photos there.
But if you insist, take a cheap camera with a small card, or something similar you can afford to lose. Don't use your cell-phone unless you are prepared to see it consfiscated.
But if you insist, take a cheap camera with a small card, or something similar you can afford to lose. Don't use your cell-phone unless you are prepared to see it consfiscated.
#3
TRAJAN
-
- Old Sweats
- 1,109 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Male
- Location:Ankara, Turkey
- Interests:Bayonets - well, that's how I got started here but now learning more about WWI each day!!!
Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:26 PM
Hi Hedley,
Is your comment on Haidar Pasha cemetery based on recent experience? I only ask because at least as far as my own experience goes, with archaeological sites at any rate, the Turkish military seem to be getting a bit more relaxed about photography near or next to military bases. Well, only a bit more relaxed, but even so, certainly a bit more relaxed than these new-fangled versions of police and other 'specials' that have recently been preventing people from taking photo's of 'sensitive' places / corporate buildings / olympic venues in London!
Trajan
Is your comment on Haidar Pasha cemetery based on recent experience? I only ask because at least as far as my own experience goes, with archaeological sites at any rate, the Turkish military seem to be getting a bit more relaxed about photography near or next to military bases. Well, only a bit more relaxed, but even so, certainly a bit more relaxed than these new-fangled versions of police and other 'specials' that have recently been preventing people from taking photo's of 'sensitive' places / corporate buildings / olympic venues in London!
Trajan
#4
ChrisC
-
- Old Sweats
- 831 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Male
- Location:Leighton Buzzard
- Interests:Oxfordshire Yeomanry (QOOH)Queen's Royal West Surrey's Royal Navy.
Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:49 PM
The War Graves Photographic Project photographed the whole site a couple of years ago on our trip to Turkey. It is indeed next to a barracks but no one paid any attention to us. It is a CWGC site after all!
Chris C
Chris C
#5
Hedley Malloch
-
- Old Sweats
- 1,106 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Male
Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:19 AM
My experience was in 2007 or 2008. I took one photo of the CWGC sign at the entrance before being approached by sentries.
Taking photographs in delineated areas around Turkish military bases (in this case a hospital) is against the law. Now whether or not people get away with it is another matter dependent upon the attitude of the sentries, whether or not one is seen, if Colonel Bulent Jobsworth is the officer i/c on the day, etc. etc. My point is that to take a photograph there is to give a hostage to fortune so take precautions - if you insist on taking photos, don't taken any kit or equipment you can't afford to lose. And don't point your camera in the direction of the hospital.
Taking photographs in delineated areas around Turkish military bases (in this case a hospital) is against the law. Now whether or not people get away with it is another matter dependent upon the attitude of the sentries, whether or not one is seen, if Colonel Bulent Jobsworth is the officer i/c on the day, etc. etc. My point is that to take a photograph there is to give a hostage to fortune so take precautions - if you insist on taking photos, don't taken any kit or equipment you can't afford to lose. And don't point your camera in the direction of the hospital.
#6
Tonym
-
- Old Sweats
- 755 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Male
- Location:East Sussex
Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:25 PM
I visited Haida Pssha cemetery in 2006 with a Leger Tour led by Paul Reed and we had no problems at all even taking photographs throughout the cemetery. My daughter even took photographs of the hospital from the cemetery. However the tour was obliged to take on an official Turkish guide as well as Paul so whether that made a difference to their security I wouldn't know but we had no problems regarding photography, but that was six years ago.
Tony
Tony
#7
Peter Bennett
-
- Old Sweats
- 2,395 posts
Brigadier-General
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, England.
Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:19 PM
Despite the conflicting opinions I am just re-booting this in case anyone might be visiting.
Thank you
Peter
Thank you
Peter
#8
frev
-
- Old Sweats
- 1,500 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Female
- Location:Victoria, Australia
Posted 09 June 2012 - 05:32 AM
Peter - I'll be there next month.
If you want to give me your grave details.....and keep your fingers crossed....I'll see what I can do!
Cheers, Frev
If you want to give me your grave details.....and keep your fingers crossed....I'll see what I can do!
Cheers, Frev
#9
Peter Bennett
-
- Old Sweats
- 2,395 posts
Brigadier-General
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, England.
Posted 09 June 2012 - 09:03 AM
frev, on 09 June 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:
Peter - I'll be there next month.
If you want to give me your grave details.....and keep your fingers crossed....I'll see what I can do!
Cheers, Frev
If you want to give me your grave details.....and keep your fingers crossed....I'll see what I can do!
Cheers, Frev
Brilliant Frev !
Thank you very much, I only need one so I will PM you the details
Regards
Peter
#10
Peter Bennett
-
- Old Sweats
- 2,395 posts
Brigadier-General
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, England.
Posted 04 August 2012 - 09:15 AM
A public thank you to Frev for her kindness in taking the photos.
Glad you were not arrested or shot !!
Glad you were not arrested or shot !!
#11
frev
-
- Old Sweats
- 1,500 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Female
- Location:Victoria, Australia
Posted 10 August 2012 - 05:31 AM
Peter Bennett, on 04 August 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:
Glad you were not arrested or shot !!
Me too!
Especially since that would have blown my chance of meeting up with you a week later in France!Which reminds me - I still have more photos to send you....
#12
Peter Bennett
-
- Old Sweats
- 2,395 posts
Brigadier-General
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, England.
Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:20 PM
frev, on 10 August 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:
Me too! Especially since that would have blown my chance of meeting up with you a week later in France!
Which reminds me - I still have more photos to send you....
Especially since that would have blown my chance of meeting up with you a week later in France!Which reminds me - I still have more photos to send you....
The pleasure was all mine.
As Humphrey Bogart said to Claude Rains in the closing scene of Casablanca, "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
ps many thanks for the France photos
#13
frev
-
- Old Sweats
- 1,500 posts
Lieut-Colonel
- Gender:Female
- Location:Victoria, Australia
Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:00 AM
Peter Bennett, on 12 August 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:
As Humphrey Bogart said to Claude Rains in the closing scene of Casablanca, "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
Hmmm....and back here in miserable, wet, freezing cold Victoria....I could well imagine walking off into the 'mist' as that friendship was contemplated.......
