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#1 jonathan b

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:02 PM

I have just came across a picture of this badge, which i assume would be connected to, or in support of the Ulster Volunteers in 1914.

Obviously one of many such groupings in cities across the mainland, in sympathy with Ulster loyalists at this time, but the first time

i have seen a badge like this.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:30 PM

This badge is 31mm in diameter, with a pin back fitting.

Name of maker on back of badge is Vaughtons Ltd Birm.

This would appear to be a buttonhole badge.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

Ive never come across this before.

A quick scan of the COvenant online shows 521 male Covenant signatorys. Even accounting for those of extreme age and those imply not interested, you would imagine there are a few hundred willing 'Ulster Volunteers' within that. Have never came across any UVF references for Edinburugh i have to say

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:21 PM

It maybe possible that this is a recruiting badge which was given to men, from the Edinburgh district who enlisted

with the service battalions who made up the 36th Ulster Division, to show where they came from.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:35 PM

Has anyone came across Edinburgh men killed in action ? who were members of any of

the service battalions of the 36th Ulster Division.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 06:25 PM

jonathan b

Here's a list of some casualties from the 36th, with an Edinburgh connection, to start you off.

Name: Patrick Burke
Birth Place: Longford
Residence: Leith
Death Date: 8 Jun 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Edinburgh
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles
Battalion: 11th Battalion
Number: 40255
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 12828, K.O.S.B.

Name: David Collier
Birth Place: Edinburgh
Death Date: 5 Aug 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Belfast
Rank: C.S.M.
Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles
Battalion: 8th Battalion
Number: 12235
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Name: Herbert Cooper
Birth Place: London
Residence: Musselburgh, Edinburgh
Death Date: 28 Aug 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Belfast
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles
Battalion: 10th Battalion
Number: 1690
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Name: John Hillis
Birth Place: Edinburgh
Death Date: 12 Apr 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Lisburn, Co. Antrim
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles
Battalion: 12th Battalion
Number: 17880
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Name: Edward Murray
Birth Place: Linlithgow
Residence: Southampton, Hants
Death Date: 9 Jun 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Edinburgh
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles
Battalion: 14th Battalion
Number: 41096
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 6345, 8Th Hussars.

Name: Charles Penman
Birth Place: Leith, Edinburgh
Death Date: 15 Mar 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Belfast
Rank: Corporal
Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles
Battalion: 14th Battalion
Number: 16036
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Name: Henry Booker
Birth Place: Edinburgh
Death Date: 27 Aug 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Edinburgh
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Battalion: 13th Battalion
Number: 47456
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 22496, Royal Scots.

Name: William Watts
Birth Place: Edinburgh, Linlithgow
Residence: Galashiels, Selkirk
Death Date: 16 Aug 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: London
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Battalion: 11th Battalion
Number: 42007
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 2434, A.S. Corps.

Name: William Kelly
Birth Place: Bathgate, Edinburgh
Death Date: 1 Jul 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Lurgan, Co. Armagh
Rank: Private
Regiment: Princess Victoria's (Royal Irish Fusiliers)
Battalion: 9th Battalion
Number: 14378
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:58 PM

Thanks Tommy, thats a very interesting list of names, spread across several battalions.

I have tried the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website, advanced search using two key words

Inniskilling and Edinburgh, but it just seemed to bring up Inniskillings from every city/town/village.

It would also be good to know from the 1901 & 1911 census, how many of the men in your list were born in

Ulster or indeed if their parents were born here, which may explain why some of them joined the Regiments

they did.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:25 PM

Thanks Tommy, thats a very interesting list of names, spread across several battalions.

I have tried the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website, advanced search using two key words

Inniskilling and Edinburgh, but it just seemed to bring up Inniskillings from every city/town/village.

It would also be good to know from the 1901 & 1911 census, how many of the men in your list were born in

Ulster or indeed if their parents were born here, which may explain why some of them joined the Regiments

they did.

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Hi jonathan b.

Tried what you said above and return was suprise only 4 results.

PROUDFOOT, WILLIAM Private 43748 03/06/1918 30 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers United Kingdom II. E. 11. ESQUELBECQ MILITARY CEMETERY

SPEIRS, ANDREW Private 47399 27/08/1918 37 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers United Kingdom IV. A. 49. OUTTERSTEENE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION, BAILLEUL

GALLACHER, T Private 42470 04/11/1918 40 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers United Kingdom I. F. 3. HAMBURG CEMETERY

IRVINE, JOHN G. Private 43745 07/12/1917 19 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers United Kingdom Panel 5 and 6. CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL

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