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Posted 31 July 2013 - 09:20 AM
Posted 31 July 2013 - 09:46 AM
By August 14th, 1916 the Ark Royal was no longer involved in Gallipoli or the Dardanelles
On 8th November 1915 she had arrived at Salonika
Perhaps someone on the Salonika & Balkans sub-section can help you
Edited by horatio2, 31 July 2013 - 09:54 AM.
Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:29 AM
ARK left Salonika and was back at Mudros on 16 March 1916. On 27 March (at Port Mudros) she also "Received on board Enemy Seaplane 536 from Stavros base." Probably the same plane damaged in August.
ARK remained at Port Mudros until April 1918.
Edit: The aircraft was a Friedrichshafen FF.33F, Ser.536 "Captured intact at Gallipoli, was flown for a time from the seaplane carrier HMS ARK ROYAL" - Source RN Aircraft Serials and Units" (Sturtivant and Page) p. 426 (photograph)
Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:30 AM
Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:56 AM
I think you may have cracked it! Just been Googling and found a picture of a Gotha WD2, and this looks like the one. The machine gun ring above the observers position gives it away. Many thanks.
I think that's the remains of one of the Gothas supplied to Turkey as some of these were fitted with a machine gun ring over the front cockpit so that the observer could stand up and fire over the propeller.
Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:43 AM
Posted 31 July 2013 - 12:22 PM
Edited by michaeldr, 31 July 2013 - 12:41 PM.
Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:07 PM
Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:18 PM
That is, indeed, the transcription. The original log page does not have the "secured" entry
The 1916 log in Mudros harbour has two entries "Damaged Turkish sea plane received alongside" and later on the same page " "Damaged Turkish sea plane secured alongside" [my italics]
Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:53 PM
Posted 31 July 2013 - 03:21 PM
Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:23 PM
re the WD 12: as far as I can tell, only two of these aircraft were retained in the Gallipoli area after January 1916 – it could perhaps be one of these?
Edited by michaeldr, 31 July 2013 - 04:29 PM.
Posted 01 August 2013 - 12:22 AM
Posted 01 August 2013 - 12:39 PM
Many thanks Bryn.
This may also be of interest, concerning the allies in1916:
'The Ark Royal was a repair ship at Mudros. The balloon ships, Hector and Canning, had returned to England in May. The French Seaplane Escadrille of Port Said had returned to France on 3 May 1916.'
Posted 24 August 2013 - 09:45 AM
Here are some quoting from my book "Gallipoli 1915" about the Turkish Naval Aviation Sqd. The Sqdr was located at Nagara close to Canakkale opposite of the Kilia Tepe.
Bereits im Mai 1915 waren auch Wasserflugzeuge vom Sonderkommando aus Deutschland erbeten worden. Das Oberkommando der Kaiserlichen Marine entsprach diesem Wunsch und sendete im Juni die ersten von einem 100 PS starken Motor angetriebenen Gotha WD 1 Wasserflugzeuge nebst drei Piloten, drei Beobachtern und sechs Mechanikern unter Führung von Kapitänleutnant Ernst Liebmann in die Türkei. Sie wurden, wie bereits die Landflugzeuge, per Bahn- und Lufttransport nach San Stefano überführt, wo eine Maschine zu Ausbildungszwecken verblieb, während die beiden anderen nach Çanak verlegt wurden. Dort war zunächst nur ein kleiner Schuppen vorhanden, der vergrößert wurde und zur Unterbringung eines Flugzeuges ausreichte. Ein zweiter Schuppen wurde bei Nagara errichtet[i]. Die drei Flugzeuge bildeten fortan die Wasserfliegerabteilung, die dem Befehlshaber der Dardanellen, Admiral von Usedom, unterstellt wurde. Mitte Juli fanden die ersten Flüge nach Mudros, Tenedos und Imbros statt. Der Flugbetrieb musste auf die Mondscheinnächte und die Morgenstunden gelegt werden, da die langsamen 100-PS-Maschinen ohne jede Armierung den schnelleren feindlichen Jagdflugzeugen deutlich unterlegen waren. Trotzdem konnten über 50 Flüge über feindlichem Gebiet und sogar vereinzelt Bombenabwürfe durchgeführt werden. Ausserdem wurden bei gutem Wetter U-Boot-Aufklärungsflüge über dem Marmara-Meer unternommen. Die nahende Augustoffensive war durch Beobachtungsflüge der Wasserfliegerabteilung aufgeklärt worden, die in der Nacht vom 27. auf den 28. Juli bei Mondlicht 87 Schiffe bei der Mudros-Bucht entdeckt hatte. Eines der drei Flugzeuge ging Ende August durch Bruchlandung verloren...
Even in May 1915 the German "Sonderkommando" asked for Naval planes from Germany. The Higher Naval Command of the Imperial Navy accepted this wish and sent the first planes of the Type Gotha WD1 with a 100 hp engine plus three pilots, three observers and six mechanics under the command of LtCmdr Ernst Liebmann to Turkey. They were transferred similar to the other planes via land and air transport to San Stefano where one plane stayed back for training and the other two were transfered to Canakkale. There was just a small hangar which was enlarged and than big enough to cover one plane. A second hangar was built in Nagara. Those three planes were now the Wasserfliegerabteilung (Naval Aviation Squadron), which was under command of the Commander of the Dardanelles, Admiral von Usedom. Mid July the first flights towards Mudros, Tenedos and Imbros were conducted. The operations were limited to the night hours and to early morning because the planes were very slow with their 100hp engines and were clearly inferior to planes of the enemy. However, they managed to conduct some 50 missions and even were able to drop some bombs. During good weather they also conducted recce missions against enemy submarines at the Sea of Marmara. The approaching offensive in August was observed by recce flights of the Naval Aviation Squadron which observed during flights in the night 27th/28th July some 87 ships in the Bay of Mudros. One of the planes was lost in August because of a crash landing.
[i] BA/MA, RM 5 / 2405, Bericht von Usedom, 30. Mai 1916
[ii] BA/MA, RM 5 / 2405, Bericht von Usedom, 16. April 1917