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[hampshire hog]

hi

im new to this, so please bare with me!!!

the following picture, is of my husbands gg grand-father, who recieved the victoria cross, but isnt mentioned on vc website!
name: andrew cameron
born: 1856
died :1921

i have traced his marriage certificate, daughters marraige certificate, and his death certifcate, on both his death cert and daughters marriage cert, his proffesion is listed as diver!...which we know he was a deep sea diver, picture available if required!

i have looked for service medal records, but have lots to choose from because we dont know, regiment, rank, service number etc

the cap badge, we thought maybe royal engineers!!????...but of course we are no experts!

we would be greatful, for any info, on badge, how we can find out what regiment, corp, and his service number, but havent a clue where to look!!

many thanks

hampshire

[hampshire hog]

oops forgot to say, he was scottish, and is it possible he was a diver, in the army????
thanks again

[Phil_B]

hi

im new to this, so please bare with me!!!

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A dangerous offer with some of our members, madam! Phil B

[Max]

Hi and welcome to the forum

Would it be possible to post slightly larger images, especially of the one on the left?

Andy

[squirrel]

Not easy to tell the badge from the photograph and doesn't look as if enlarging it will help.
In the photograph of the gentleman in his suit the right hand medal looks like an Army Temperence Society medal but I stand to be corrected.
If he was born in 1856, at 58 years he would have been on the old side for service in WW1.

Have you tried the sections on researching a soldier on the main site?

[Max]

If the man was awarded the VC tracking him should be a piece of cake. However, I can only find two Camerons mentioned and these VCs were awarded in 1858 and WW2.

Andy

[squirrel]

Is there anything written or printed on the backs of the photographs?

[Desmond7]

Hampshire .. could you please post a 'blow up' of the right hand pic.
Des

[hampshire hog]

Is there anything written or printed on the backs of the photographs?

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as far as i can remember.....no......i dont have the orginal, my mother-in-law does..in scotland...but i shall find out in due course, maybe a few days, coz she is in hospital at the moment....but as far as i can remember, when scanning them in....i dont think there was!!

cheers

[hampshire hog]

QUOTE (Desmond7 @ Aug 11 2005, 02:13 PM)
Hampshire .. could you please post a 'blow up' of the right hand pic.
Des

[hampshire hog]

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can anyone+ identify, the uniform, medals, badges etc!
is that the vc????

maybe im being premature, and its being researched...sorry if thats the case!#

yes i know...impatient biatch..lol


cheers

[Garron]

in both pictures it does look like a vc



if it is, he must have done somthing very brave

[Max]

I can't make it out on the group shot, but the medal on the suited man IMHO looks too small and too shiny to be a VC. Also the suspension bar, if thats what its called, does not appear to be present in the photo.

Andy

[hampshire hog]

I can't make it out on the group shot, but the medal on the suited man IMHO looks too small and too shiny to be a VC. Also the suspension bar, if thats what its called, does not appear to be present in the photo.

Andy

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ok thanks for your replies

how about he other medals, uniform, and i take it 2 stripes, meant he was a cpl, at the time picture was taken!??

thanks again

gina

[squirrel]

Can you enlarge the section of the photo of him in the suit showing the medals?

[hampshire hog]

QUOTE (squirrel @ Aug 11 2005, 04:46 PM)
Can you enlarge the section of the photo of him in the suit showing the medals?

[hampshire hog]

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[Terry_Reeves]

The right hand medal  is a temperance medal issued by the Army Temperance Association. The number 6 indicates an abstinence of 6 months. I have a strong feeling that the centre one is also a temperance medal. It may be worth noting that a number of these medals were also produced in the form of a cross pattee, similar to the VC. For soldiers taking the pledge, temperance medals were highly prized.

There is no mystery about the diving aspect.  Military diving was introduced in the UK by Colonel Charles Paisley of the Royal Engineers in 1838, and he established a diving school in 1840. The RE still maintain diving teams,as a specialist trade. However this is not an indication that he was a military diver of course.


Terry Reeves

[squirrel]

Looks like the left hand medal on the suit picture has the lion surmounting a crown with an inscription beneath on a scroll.

[hampshire hog]

Looks like the left hand medal on the suit picture has the lion surmounting a crown with an inscription beneath on a scroll.

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and if im not mistaken squirrel, isnt that the vc???

[Graham Stewart]

Hello all,
Certainly has a look of Royal Engineers to me, but certainly not regulars or Territorials, so may I suggest Royal Engineers(Volunteers) of the Volunteer Force after they had been affiliated to the Royal Engineers in July 1918.

Therefore it is a possiblity that it may actually be a VC, and I for one, have never seen Temperance Medals worn on the left breast like decorations or campaign medals.

Graham.

[bernardmcilwaine]

gina,what was his mothers maiden name,if it is a VC it could be his g/fathers on his mums side,bernard

[Paul Reed]

Having handled several original VCs, the medal in the photo is not a Victoria Cross. I have no idea what it might be or why he is wearing it, but it is not a Victoria Cross. If it was a VC he would have the ribbon on his WW1 uniform with a miniature of the VC on the ribbon. Which he does not.

[Graham Stewart]

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Hello again,
Just thought I chuck these in for the sake of interest. Bought about twenty years ago, because it had a Northumberland Fusiliers being congratulated by a K.O.S.B. on winning a decoration. Little did I realise at the time this faded photo actually pictured one of the most famous pipers of the Great War, Piper Daniel Laidlaw, V.C., 7th Bn, K.O.S.B., who won it at Loos in September 1915.

The photograph may have been taken for a local newspaper, as it doesn't bare the hallmarks of an official photo and was probably taken in the back yard of someones home. Sorry it's so badly faded, a process which is difficult to halt, but hopefully you can make out Laidlaw's V.C. attached to his tunic.

Graham.

[Terry Denham]

The medal which looks like a VC is possibly the Imperial Merchant Service Medal instituted about 1895 and was presented by the Merchant Service Guild for heroism at sea.

Picture courtesy of Medal Yearbook 2004

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