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#226 blighty valley

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:10 PM

i think the whole england team should

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:07 AM

Hibernian FC players who died in the Great War

Robert Wilson, an American citizen, born in Chicago
Sandy Grosert

Sergeant Patrick “Paddy” Hagan

Robert “Bobby” Atherton

Bobby Atherton was the last Hibs captain to lift the Scottish Cup.
He is commemorated on the Tower Hill memorial to the missing.

Glory Glory to the Hibees

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:13 PM

Hibernian FC players who died in the Great War

Robert Wilson, an American citizen, born in Chicago
Sandy Grosert

Sergeant Patrick “Paddy” Hagan

Robert “Bobby” Atherton

Bobby Atherton was the last Hibs captain to lift the Scottish Cup.
He is commemorated on the Tower Hill memorial to the missing.

Glory Glory to the Hibees

Al

This intelligence would come as worrying news to Sandy Grosert, who joined the 16th Royal Scots on its formation in 1914, was commissioned in the Gordon Highlanders, was wounded and awarded the Military Cross, and who survived the war to take up a career as a dentist and a fine amateur golfer - as befitted a leading member of Scotland's sporting (and the original 'Footballers') battalion.



#229 methy12

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:05 PM

I presume this thread is still going, and I'm learning a lot from it, so thankyou! Next year I hope to bring out a book about Derbyshire and the Great War. A part [smallish, sadly, given the scope of the book] willl be devoted to sportsmen with Derbyshire links, who gave their lives, or whose lives were affected by the war. To your list, I would add Reginald Henry Callender 31. 8. 1892.-5.10.1915. who played as an amateur for Derby County in the last stages of the 1914 season as well as as playing in the Varsity match of that year. He was a Cambridge Blue, who I think, also played for Stockton and Glossop at times.

#230 Stephen Nulty

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:04 PM

Methy12

Have you included Edwin Neve in your list of Derbyshire connections?

http://www.prescot-r...Edwin_Neve.html

#231 methy12

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 05:08 PM

Hi Stephen,
Yes I have, I'd already seen the reference to him in the Derby Daily Telegraph, before I came across him on your site. Like you, I think his death is attributable to the war, and he deserves wider recognition, but I don't think, sadly, that I can include him in my book[ should it come to fruition!] because of it's limited scope. I have, however, passed his details on to a friend of mine called Peter Seddon. He, [unlike me!] is a proper football historian, author of a book on Steve Bloomer whose war was spent in internment in Ruhleben and 'The Football Compendium' published by The British Library. He had 'Ned' Neve as being somehow connected with WW1, but hadn't 'clocked him as a casualty. He also says he attended a course at Trent Poly [as it then was ] with Chris Neve, who he thinks, may have been a Great Grandson or other relation. He's filed the information away for any future article or book he may produce on the 'Rams' in the two wars.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:15 AM

here is the list of the Crystal Palace players who were killed

HARRY HANGER - http://www.cwgc.org/...5/HANGER, HARRY
ARTHUR HOOPER - http://www.cwgc.org/...44866/HOOPER, A
JOSEPH BULCOCK - http://1914-1918.inv...-1347926164.jpg http://www.cwgc.org/...BULCOCK, JOSEPH
NORMAN WOOD - http://www.cwgc.org/.../WOOD, NORMAN A
ERNEST YORK - http://www.cwgc.org/...1652533/YORK, E
JOHN BOWLER -
JAMES (JOHN) "GINGER" WILLIAMS - http://www.cwgc.org/...S, JOHN WILLIAM
EDWARD BELL MC/BAR - http://www.cwgc.org/...INKERMAN JORDAN
DONALD BELL VC - well you all know about him.


this has been discussed a little on the Soliders section may come in handy

http://1914-1918.inv...pic=69066&st=75

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:55 AM

http://www.dailymail...-Battalion.html

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:00 PM

here is the list of the Crystal Palace players who were killed ...


Just to clarify, you are saying these fatalities had all played for Crystal Palace, as thats quite a large number - also I hadnt realised Bell played for Palace - I only associated him with Newcastle.

I cant remember the player's name, but there was a Palace centre-half in the 20s that used to play with one arm strapped to his torso as a result of wounds received with the Royal West Kents in F&F. (I may have mentioned him previously in this thread). I think he captained Palace as well. Obviously the game has changed enormously in the last 90 years - its less physical but requires greater levels of fitness - but I found it remarkable that this man was still able to play at a high level and of all places, at centre half.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:54 PM

yes all of those were killed some were at other clubs by then but had played for us, we lost 3 players who were still playing for us when they went to war, Donald Bell played for Palace when he was at school down in Westminster we were an amateur team when he played (he played professional for Bradford Park Avenue), Edward Bell played for Palace when were an amateur team also.

I know of 4 that survived the war Harry (Horace) Colclough (our first ever England International), Jack Alderson(it wouldn't be him he was a keeper played 192 games for us) and Dick Allman (was a reserve player) and the last one William Middleton he played for us for a season went to war and played a season after 1919-1920 then went to Scotland.


the only one I know who was captain was Harry Hanger he was killed in 1918 (he enlisted in 1915).



a lot of info I got was from a person on a Crystal Palace forum..

Edited by dannyboy1807, 03 April 2013 - 01:05 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:02 PM

gunner e bullen rfa, kia 11/08/1917 ( 11.a.9 ) vraucourt copse cemetery vaulx- vraucourt france, is the only player to be killed in the great war who played for the great bury fc


Bury F.C. have Teddy Bullen's photo and a plaque on display.

159600 Gunner E.Bullen, "C" Company. 312th Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. Died 11th August 1917. Buried at Vraucourt Copse Cemetery, Vaulx-Vraucourt.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 08:06 AM

Just to clarify, you are saying these fatalities had all played for Crystal Palace, as thats quite a large number - also I hadnt realised Bell played for Palace - I only associated him with Newcastle.

I cant remember the player's name, but there was a Palace centre-half in the 20s that used to play with one arm strapped to his torso as a result of wounds received with the Royal West Kents in F&F. (I may have mentioned him previously in this thread). I think he captained Palace as well. Obviously the game has changed enormously in the last 90 years - its less physical but requires greater levels of fitness - but I found it remarkable that this man was still able to play at a high level and of all places, at centre half.

 

Hello,

 

I know it's been a while but I have finally managed to get a name for him Phil Bates - thanks to some fellow Palace fans.

 

a Pension Record for a Philip Bates that lived in Beckenham and joined up in 1914 at Bromley which supports that. The record shows he was discharged in 1916 as 'unfit' as a result of a gunshot wound to his right shoulder that shattered the 'head of the right humerus'. He was in hospital for 4 months.

 



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:34 AM

 

Hello,

 

I know it's been a while but I have finally managed to get a name for him Phil Bates

 

a Pension Record for a Philip Bates that lived in Beckenham and joined up in 1914 at Bromley which supports that. The record shows he was discharged in 1916 as 'unfit' as a result of a gunshot wound to his right shoulder that shattered the 'head of the right humerus'. He was in hospital for 4 months.

 

Hello Danny - it's Grassboy here ;) Knew I'd track you down on here eventually :)



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:42 AM

Hello Danny - it's Grassboy here ;) Knew I'd track you down on here eventually :)

 

Hello mate,

 

we need some match reports from early 1905-1918 see if we can find more players, from the book where the whistle blows it names a couple of players who enlisted at the very beginning for the Footballers Battlion.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:10 AM

 

Hello,

 

I know it's been a while but I have finally managed to get a name for him Phil Bates - thanks to some fellow Palace fans.

 

a Pension Record for a Philip Bates that lived in Beckenham and joined up in 1914 at Bromley which supports that. The record shows he was discharged in 1916 as 'unfit' as a result of a gunshot wound to his right shoulder that shattered the 'head of the right humerus'. He was in hospital for 4 months.

 

 

Good work Danny.  I knew I hadnt made it up!