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Graeme Fisher
post Jan 24 2008, 01:25 AM
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John
Many thanks for the Handsworth pics and newspaper extract - brilliant stuff!

The premises still stand in Nineveh road, now a club, the brick and stone frontage rendered.

The unit listed in the press clip is different to my database entry.
I list ASC; the paper lists RAMC as occupants. Any specialists fill in the gaps?

Thanks again

Graeme
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Graeme Fisher
post Jan 24 2008, 01:28 AM
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Roger

I envy your trip to Huddersfield.

I think we'd better make you our Yorkshire Field Co-ordinator!

Carry on, Coporal Popeye.....

Graeme
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (FROGSMILE @ Jan 23 2008, 09:20 PM) *
There is still a Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry Drill Hall standing on the 'Wilton Road' going out of Salisbury (it still has a carved stone badge at front and centre).


Thank you; that's interesting. Would it be possible to have some more information (eg exact address) and even a photograph, please? A picture of the badge would be good, too.

Gwyn
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post Jan 24 2008, 08:27 PM
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Hi there Graeme,

Its truely my pleasure and I suspect there will be more stuff there that will require possibly more than one trip, by the way Captain Hey CO or OC not sure which till tuesday as no information on the Yorkshire Dragoons at Fitzwilliam Street as I suspect that it might have been pulled down to make way for the Inner Ring Road, and the only info I could get was what I have already sent you.

The popeye bit was given to me by my work collegues because I smoke a pipe(no I'm not old fashioned) and I enjoy it and let all the problems go away in smoke(pc incorrect).

Cheers Roger.
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post Jan 28 2008, 01:15 AM
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I hope you have a productive visit, Roger. I've enjoyed the opportunities I've had to go and explore the interiors of drill halls, both those in military use and those which have been recycled. The haunted one was quite unnerving.....

Gwyn
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post Jan 28 2008, 07:54 AM
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Hi there Graeme & Gwyn,

Prior to my visit to Huddersfield, I'd just like to mention that Captain Hey told me that the Drill Hall is held in trust by the people of Huddersfield and not a MOD building.

Cheers Roger.
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Graeme Fisher
post Jan 29 2008, 12:46 AM
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Interesting that you mention that, Roger.

Many drill halls were built by public subscription; the bulk of the money was often from one or two wealthy local worthies, but many people supported their local volunteer unit.

Somewhere down the line, ownership passed to the Government, by fair means or foul. Look at the number of drill halls given over to the Post Office as sorting offices or telephone exchanges, leisure centres or parts of colleges or universities.

Owned, in truth, by the populus of the town that built the place, not the local council.

I'd enjoy seeing some keen legal mind challenging ownership.......

Graeme
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post Jan 29 2008, 09:53 PM
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Hi there Graeme & Gywn,

You are certainly right in your statement, and indeed myself and Peter Bennett have been along tonight to the drill, and I must say at this point I feel deflated and disapointed in the fact that we couldn't do proper justice to the Drill Hall or this project.

As suspected it will require some more visits to view the scrapbooks in there entirety they are leather bound with embossing on and each page is about 3/4 mm thick and cover from the early 20th centuary up to well we never found out.

The panalling containg the names of fallen that left there with the 5 th Battalion is awe inspiring and covers the whole of a Gable end and the names are readable.

I have managed to get a few photo's of inside it was dark so I will go back at the weekend and take the outside, then I will let you have copies of them.

Once again Captain Hey mentioned about the building be held in trust for the people and not MOD although its a very active TA centre.

Cheers Roger.
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post Jan 29 2008, 10:26 PM
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Hi Roger

Please don't feel deflated. Photos are only part of the project. If you have time to jot down some notes and impressions while it's still fresh, we can always include your own personal reflections on this building. Even just a few lines would be great! Facts, the way the place was set up, uses for different parts of it, things that surprised you, remnants of living or family accommodation, signs of past history, the style of the building and its architecture, anecdotes, whatever comes to mind. This is what I do and I send Graeme my private ramblings.

Sometimes funny details come out, like Screaming Lord Sutch being arrested on the roof of Grantham Drill Hall, or me being served coffee and biscuits, with sugar and sugar tongs and a silver coffee pot, on a silver platter in a grand ballroom (which was comical to me because I'm most inelegant and a mess, not at all worthy of ceremony); sometimes strange facts, like the drill hall which is haunted by an officer who copped it in a rifle accident; sometimes interesting history, like the Rolling Stones gigging at Lincoln Drill Hall. Each drill hall has its own personality.

Words are equally valuable to the project and mean lot to people for whom this might be the lost bit in their family jigsaw. Some forum members have already contributed their own pieces (thank you Jim and George). We're very open-minded and very appreciative of anything people can offer, provided it fits within the scope of the project.

Gwyn
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post Jan 29 2008, 11:51 PM
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Hi Gwyn,

Thats what I was trying to get over about basically the shortage of time tonight. I will have a natter with Peter and see what he picked also. Notes to follow shortly.

Have no fear I still have a great love for the Drill Halls.

Cheers Roger.
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post Jan 29 2008, 11:58 PM
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The 2nd bat Cheshire Reg drill hall is still up and running but is now a gym
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post Jan 30 2008, 01:28 AM
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Where, exactly, please?

Gwyn (also Cheshire)
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post Jan 30 2008, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (Dragon @ Jan 24 2008, 11:20 AM) *
Thank you; that's interesting. Would it be possible to have some more information (eg exact address) and even a photograph, please? A picture of the badge would be good, too.

Gwyn

Not sure if this is the one?

B(Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry) SQN.
The Royal Wessex Yeomanry
Old Sarum House
Portway
Old Sarum
Salisbury
Wiltshire
SP4 6BY

Let me know if you require other Royal Wessex Yeomanry TACs old and new to include;
Glos Hussars x 4
Devon Yeo x 3
Dorset Yeo x 2
Wilts Yeo x 2
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post Jan 30 2008, 07:51 PM
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Re 815

Ta Gwyn, didnt answer any questions, they were to do with the conservation of the railway village, the Drill hall is at the opposite end of the park and although it stands on the site of the undated original hall, it is now a modern (60's) building

Thanks for looking
Grant
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post Jan 30 2008, 11:54 PM
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Sorry. I can't add anything to the information which we put on the website about the Drill Hall in Church Place, the Park. Some of that was derived from the links I posted.
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Graeme Fisher
post Jan 31 2008, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE (Gloucestershire Yeomanry @ Jan 30 2008, 06:51 PM) *
Not sure if this is the one?

B(Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry) SQN.
The Royal Wessex Yeomanry
Old Sarum House
Portway
Old Sarum
Salisbury
Wiltshire
SP4 6BY

Let me know if you require other Royal Wessex Yeomanry TACs old and new to include;
Glos Hussars x 4
Devon Yeo x 3
Dorset Yeo x 2
Wilts Yeo x 2



My understanding is that the Old Sarum site is 1930s, ex-RAF. I can't confirm this but a picture (hint, hint!) would date the architecture. My records suggest the now-demolished Market House as a centre for military activity at the turn of last century.

A trip to http://www.drillhalls.org/Counties/CountyPageWiltshire.htm will tell you where we're at; any gap filling will, as always, be gratefully received and duly credited.

GRaeme
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post Jan 31 2008, 06:25 PM
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A trip to http://www.drillhalls.org/Counties/CountyPageWiltshire.htm will tell you where we're at; any gap filling will, as always, be gratefully received and duly credited.

GRaeme

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I've had a look at the above site and understand a little more of what is required!
There are a lot of old RGH Drill Halls noted and I think it a good excuse, after a little research, to get out and about with the camera............
I will also see if there are any that have been missed!

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post Jan 31 2008, 08:37 PM
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sad.gif [attachment=75803:The_Old_...ks._005a.jpg]Hi there PALS,

Sad news alround the Old Drill Hall in Wakefield as now been demolished along with the whole area to make way for a monstrosity(excuse spelling), its a good job I got there first with my camera(haha) thats the good news.
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post Jan 31 2008, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (Gloucestershire Yeomanry @ Jan 31 2008, 06:25 PM) *
I've had a look at the above site and understand a little more of what is required!
There are a lot of old RGH Drill Halls noted and I think it a good excuse, after a little research, to get out and about with the camera............
I will also see if there are any that have been missed!



Brilliant!

Thanks, photos are always good, whether to record, date, or deny the existence of a drill hall. Or where it used to be.

Absolutely anything is useful - we may not use it directly, but info read with other stuff creates a clearer picture of what, where and when.

Look forward to your discoveries.....
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post Jan 31 2008, 10:52 PM
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Roger - looks like Popeye had a couple of tins of spinach before messing up the Wakefield site!

Seriously - it's sad to see 'em go, but inevitable sometimes, and better that we record 'em before Barratts or Tesco get there...

Thanks, you happy snapper. Invaluable.
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post Feb 6 2008, 09:50 AM
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Another one at risk.



Oldham, photographed in the snow at the weekend.

Planning application for demolition and replacement by 30 houses. Apparently the builder won't even preserve the facade.

Gwyn

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post Feb 6 2008, 09:18 PM
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Hi Gwyn,

What a flaming shame, it looks fantastic, there's nowt so blind as a developer, but at least if I understand you right the building will remain.

Cheers Roger.
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post Feb 6 2008, 11:34 PM
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No, it will all go. I wasn't very clear, sorry. I've amended my post.

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post Feb 7 2008, 09:17 AM
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One with some good news. Spalding is being sold, but the planning permission specifically requires that the building is preseved, with any new bricks matching the originals and the roof tiles to be matched too. That terrible canopy has to go. There is planning permission for apartments withing the building.

Sorry about the cars. I couldn't edit them all out.



On the face of it, this seems to be an example of good practice.

Gwyn
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post Feb 9 2008, 04:15 PM
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Hi there Gwyn,

Never mind the cars what a beauty, got the photo's of Huudersfield Drill Hall and visited the site of 2 others in Huddersfield, one is a great mound of earth at the rear of a bowling green and the other is now a flyover for the Ring Road, and I have also got some copy material of the main Drill Hall which I have let Graeme know about, been a busy morning(love it really).

Cheers Roger.
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