 HMS Victory, Name for Portsmouth Dockyard in WWI ? |
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 Nov 23 2003, 06:38 PM
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Corporal Group: Members1 Posts: 28 Joined: 6-October 03 Member No.: 1,178  |
Before, during and after WWI, my grandfather was at HMS Victory after spells on cruisers. Was HMS Victory the name given to Portsmouth Dockyard during the Great War ? Or, would he have actually been attached to Nelson's ship ?
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Nov 23 2003, 08:04 PM
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Major-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 3,606 Joined: 28-October 02 From: Edinburgh Member No.: 129 |
From my list of home bases RN
HMS Nelson - Portsmouth Royal Naval Barracks WW2 Previously HMS Victory, renamed due to confusion with the historical HMS Victory on display there. so it would appear HMS Victory was used in WW1 as the name of Portsmouth Barracks. Aye Malcolm |
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Nov 23 2003, 08:07 PM
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Major Group: Old Sweats Posts: 365 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Portsmouth Hampshire England Member No.: 1,115 |
Until fairly recently, there was some confusion in Portsmouth as there were both HMS Victory and Victory barracks. The barracks have been renamed but I can't remember the new name. I don't think that the dockyard ever had a name.
As HMS Victory has been in continuous commission since well before then  , I suspect that your grandfather was attached to Nelson's ship, which is still the flagship of C in C Portsmouth. I believe that it is now a prestigious posting.Nigel |
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Nov 23 2003, 08:14 PM
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Lieut-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 9,715 Joined: 18-October 02 From: Sussex, UK Member No.: 19 |
HMS Victory has been used at least sixteen times for various establishments. The WW1 uses were....
HMS Victory - Flagship Portsmouth & barracks 1840 - 1974 HMS Victory II - Crystal Palace - Training depot RN Divs 1914-19 HMS Victory III - Portsmouth Accounting Sec 1914-17 HMS Victory IV - London/Portsmouth/Petersfield RNR 1914-17 HMS Victory VI - Crystal Palace depot for RNR & RN Divs 1914-19 HMS Victory VII - Portland auxiliary patrol depot 1915 HMS Victory IX - Reserves Portsmouth 1915-16 HMS Victory X - Portsmouth accounting section 1917-19 That is very briefly. Some of these names were later used for other locations further complicating the issue! So references to 'Victory' do not necessarily have anything to do with Nelson's ship. All the above from the excellent 'Shore Establishments of the Royal Navy' |
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Nov 24 2003, 12:24 PM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Old Sweats Posts: 146 Joined: 11-July 03 Member No.: 946 |
Don't know the situation duirng WWI but during WWII HMS Victory (Nelson's ship) was used as accommodation for naval ratings undergoing training at Portsmouth. The IWM Photo Archive has a good series of images showing ratings boarding HMS VICTORY and their accommodation on board.
ALAN |
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Nov 24 2003, 01:03 PM
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Brigadier-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 2,604 Joined: 28-October 02 From: Hanham, South Gloucestershire Member No.: 128 |
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Nov 28 2003, 11:12 AM
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Brigadier-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 1,980 Joined: 3-November 02 From: Kent Member No.: 174 |
QUOTE (Bombadier @ Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:07:35 +0000) The barracks have been renamed but I can't remember the new name. Its now called HMS Nelson Michael |
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Oct 20 2009, 01:45 PM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Old Sweats Posts: 136 Joined: 2-January 09 From: North Yorkshire Member No.: 42,730 |
To avoid starting a new thread I thought I would check the search regarding Victory II, but can't find my answer so here goes.
Where was HMS Victory II [2] in 1923..? The Stoker I am looking into is listed 'on' or more probably 'at' this 'ship' from 21.9.23 to 25.2.24. In brackets at the side of the name in small writing it says (Eagle), which leads me to wonder if this was a cover name of some kind for Eagle whilst she was being refitted with the longer "Island" and new anti-torpedo defences before she was commissioned on 26.2.24, because on that date 'my' Stoker is listed as crew on HMS Eagle, until transfer off her on 3.9.26 after a spell with the Med. Fleet. Apologies for the not-wholy-WW1 question, but he was serving from 1909  regards Matt |
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Oct 20 2009, 02:52 PM
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Lieut-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 8,710 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Greater Mercia Member No.: 5,692 |
HMS Victory II was an administrative depot; he was probably shore based, with Victory II handling his administration (mail, pay, training etc) while Eagle was being refitted and he was possibly working on the refit crew, they would still need power.
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Oct 20 2009, 04:13 PM
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Major-General Group: Old Sweat Posts: 3,867 Joined: 10-May 05 From: Ull on Umber Member No.: 7,039 |
HMS Victory II was the administrative and accomodation depot for Stokers and ERA's, , situated in HM Naval base Portsmouth before 1914 and after 1919 during the Great War situated at Crystal Palace London. Looks like he was standing by while she was fitting out.
Regards Charles |
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