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 Jul 16 2007, 07:53 AM
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These 3 Pickett soldier brothers are all from Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England. I come from New Zealand. They are my grandfathers cousins, and these are the only photographes we have from our family back in England. One (Frederick) had Master Sargent written on the back of his photo. I also suspect he may have been made a WO1 at some stage. I wonder if anyone can confirm this rank & the brothers regiment(s)? Appreciate any help you can give!
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Jul 16 2007, 07:58 AM
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Lieut-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 7,803 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Not too far from The Rose Bowl Member No.: 6,673 |
Well, Master Sergeant isn't British Army, but the chap on the left looks like a Colour Sergeant/Staff sergeant (crown over chevrons) - or any permutation thereof.
The cap badge on the chap wearing a cap is possibly Lancashire Fusiliers, or R Dublin Fusiliers - the grenade with scroll underneath. |
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Jul 16 2007, 08:33 AM
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Brigadier-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 2,778 Joined: 23-April 06 From: Heiton Member No.: 12,111 |
Hi Kiwi93 and welcome to the forum. Do make sure you look over the hints to finding a soldier on the 'Long Long Trail' link.
I did a quick check of MICs and there are 32 Frederick Picketts listed. The most likely one seems to be Company Serjeant Major Frederick Pickett of the Wiltshire Regiment. Number 5344. |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:19 AM
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Brigadier-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 2,363 Joined: 12-July 06 From: New Zealand Member No.: 13,541 |
I'm no good at medal ribbons, but the chap on the top right certainly appears to be wearing one. Can anyone tell what medal it is? Or is it a post-war photo just showing the general pip, squeak and wilfred?
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Jul 16 2007, 09:26 AM
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Major-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 3,568 Joined: 25-June 05 From: Darlington, Co.Durham Member No.: 7,376 |
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Number of downloads: 3 Definately Wiltshire Regt for this one, so IanA may have it bang on. Graham. |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:32 PM
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Major Group: Old Sweats Posts: 417 Joined: 6-June 05 Member No.: 7,238 |
QUOTE (kiwi93 @ Jul 16 2007, 08:53 AM)  These 3 Pickett soldier brothers are all from Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England. I come from New Zealand. They are my grandfathers cousins, and these are the only photographes we have from our family back in England. One (Frederick) had Master Sargent written on the back of his photo. I also suspect he may have been made a WO1 at some stage. I wonder if anyone can confirm this rank & the brothers regiment(s)? Appreciate any help you can give! Hello Greetings and welcome to this wonderful place . Unless my poor sad old eyes are deceiving me, the gentleman in the middle is wearing the two ribbons from the Boer War ie Q.S.A & K.S.A ribbon. Not sure that gets you anywhere. Regards, Bob Norman |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:36 PM
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Lieut-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 7,803 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Not too far from The Rose Bowl Member No.: 6,673 |
On Graham and Ian's superb detective work, I - full of shame - withdraw my Lancashire Fusliers siggestion. Mutter...should have gone to Specsavers......
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Jul 16 2007, 03:07 PM
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Lieut-Colonel Group: Old Sweats Posts: 728 Joined: 12-September 05 From: Leafy Lytham, on the Fylde Coast of Lancashire Member No.: 8,000 |
A quick search on the Wardrobe, the website for the museum of the Wiltshire Regt (or whatever it is called now) brought up 2 Picketts from the Marlborough area, Frederick abd Charles. This is from a search of enlistments to the Wiltshire Militia (forerunner of the TA) and I think is compiled from records of attestation held at the National Archives at Kew. It may be worth checking with the museum who may advise how to progress this, they also have reseachers who couldl take this further for you (for a fee of course). You may get lucky with a kind Pal has used these records before picking up this topic..
Here is the link http://www.thewardrobe.org.uk/militia_resu...p;submit=submit Good luck with your hunting. Peter |
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Jul 16 2007, 03:40 PM
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Lieut-Colonel Group: Old Sweats Posts: 728 Joined: 12-September 05 From: Leafy Lytham, on the Fylde Coast of Lancashire Member No.: 8,000 |
Have looked up Charles and Frederick Pickett in 1891 census and it appears they were brothers, 2 of the sons of John & Fanny, living a Axford. Other siblings were George, William and Winifred. By 1901 though only William was still living with his parents. Is this your family? If you PM me I can send you an image of the 1891 census.
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Jul 16 2007, 03:47 PM
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Lieut-Colonel Group: Old Sweats Posts: 728 Joined: 12-September 05 From: Leafy Lytham, on the Fylde Coast of Lancashire Member No.: 8,000 |
There are a number of Medal Index Cards for Pickett in the Wiltshire Reg't. One is Frederick who is a Company Sargeant Major so this might be your man.
Here is the link http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...Spec=score+desc Peter |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:04 PM
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Private Group: Members1 Posts: 2 Joined: 15-July 07 Member No.: 23,458 |
Thank you so much gentlemen!! You have enlightened us more in 12 hours than my family had been able to find out in the last 40 years! Yes the 3 brothers; Fred, Charles & William are definitely the sons of John & Fanny Pickett of Axford! From Frederick's probable MIC he was a CSM and may have been promoted to a WO1 or WO2? Also looks like he was at Gallipoli (2 (
 Balkans)?, and while not a great place to be, does hold a special interest for us as kiwis! Charles's ribbons could well be Boer War (there was some family rumours about that) so I will look into that one. Sadly Charles died in 1922, maybe of his experiences? and is buried at Devizes. It was a good job William worn his cap in the photo, and I thank you for recognising it for us. I will follow up on all your suggestions! Regards David.
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Jul 17 2007, 07:40 PM
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Brigadier-General Group: Old Sweats Posts: 2,778 Joined: 23-April 06 From: Heiton Member No.: 12,111 |
Hi David, Great news that we're making progress. Do not be afraid to post again as you get more info. The level of expertise (present company excepted) is quite astounding!
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Nov 7 2009, 02:41 PM
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Private Group: Members1 Posts: 1 Joined: 6-November 09 Member No.: 50,931 |
Hello
I've only just joined so seem to be two years too late to add any information! However, it would be brilliant if kiwi93 is still involved, as we must be related since William, Charles and Frederick were cousins of my grandfather (also called Charles). It was wonderful to see their photos for the first time. William was killed on Sept 9th 1917, aged 40. Grave reference: Plot H, Row 5, Grave 11, Calais Southern Cemetery. At the time of his death he was a Private in the 11th Battalion, Somerset Light Infantry (Prince Albert's), Service No. 265981. Before that he'd been in the Wiltshire Regiment, Service No. 4373. I think his name is on the War Memorial at Axford, Wiltshire. |
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