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[Myrtle]

Thank you Tony
I hoped that Pte Perry would appear on one of the Birmingham memorials as he seems to have been a resident of the city for a number of years. His name is listed on the Rhayader Memorial in Mid Wales as his father lived locally but Jack Perry, as he was known, was resident and enlisted in Birmingham according to SDGW and his widow Harriet Amanda Perry's address (note she hadn't remarried) was in Bromford Lane (Mistype in my last post)  Erdington in the 1920s when CWGC compiled their details. Harriet Amanda Tanswell (family from Stourbridge) and Jack Perry married in Aston in 1906 so it would appear that they had been residents of Birmingham for at least 10 years at the time of his death.
Another intriguing omission.
Regards
Myrtle

[Matt Dixon]

I have a list of 26 names from the war memorial in St Mary's church Selly Oak.  Can you drop me a PM with your email addie rather than wasting bandwidth posting the list on here?

Any help you could provide would be gratefully recieved.

[ianw]

Tony - Is the Hall of Memory the nice building in the big square by the concert hall?

I have visited Brum several times recently on business and wandered from Brindley Place to the City centre. I think it's a really nice place now.

Well done on your important work for our second city.

[subotone]

Hi

Yes that is the place part of what is now Centenary Square. An impresive building. Have a look in next time you are passing. It is well worth it.

Regards

Tony

[subotone]

Hi Matt

I have the names off St Marys Church Selly Oak. I am having problems with 5 of the names. Sydney Barton, William Price, Leslie Shield, Sidney Smith & Andrew Warrener. Perhaps you can help me identifey them.

Please feel free to contact me subotone@blueyonder.co.uk

Tont

[Matt Dixon]

HI Tony,

I have a feeling we have met before......Selly Park Tavern?

Regarding William Price:

Lance Corporal William Price, 8190 1st Bn Kings Royal Rifle Corps.  2nd son of John and Mary Price, New Summer Street, Birmingham, born 12th May 1883, and educated at St Mary's School.  He was employed as a metal polisher for the British Hub Company, Weaman Street, Birmingham.  He enlisted in December 1914 and went to France on the 16th May 1915.  He was killed in action at Loos on the 19th September 1915, and is commemorated on the Dud Corner memorial.  
He married Florence Minnie Grove of 9 Park Place, Elkington Street Birmingham, on the 1st November 1902, at St Mary's Church Selly Oak.  They had two children Jack, born 5th October 1905 and May Florence Ivy born 19th May 1908.

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[ianw]

Tony - I never seem to get to the Hall of Memory during opening hours - work always gets in the way!  Maybe when I next come up in January.

Regards Ian

[subotone]

Hi Alan

I have about another 60 memorials to list + about 75 Roll of Honour from Bham companies. I am mindful of Chris's request to keep down the amout of space being used. If Chris has no objection to me listing these then please let me know.

Tony

[subotone]

Hi Matt

Thanks for the information. Yes you are right. Nice pint at the Selly Park Tavern. Great to hear from you again. Please keep in touch as  I know you have done some work on memorials in Bearwood or Smethwick area!!. I would appreaciate any information pictures & name lists you may have for these memorials.

Regards

Tony

[subotone]

Hi Martin

No look either except he is listed in the book "The Roll of Honour of Birmingham Men & Woman who gave Their Lives in The Great War." This means that his name will be in the Bham Hall of Memory.

Tony

Martin

Some time ago you were asking if I knew of a Birmingham war memorial with the name of Bennitt Ernist Gordon. If you are still interested I have found him listed on the Memorial Cross outside St Peters Church, Harborne. The address is Old Church Road, Harborne, Birmingham.

Tony

[subotone]

Hi Martin

No look either except he is listed in the book "The Roll of Honour of Birmingham Men & Woman who gave Their Lives in The Great War." This means that his name will be in the Bham Hall of Memory.

Tony

Martin

Some time ago you were asking if I knew of a Birmingham war memorial with the name of Bennitt Ernist Gordon. If you are still interested I have found him listed on the Memorial Cross outside St Peters Church, Harborne. The address is Old Church Road, Harborne, Birmingham.

Tony

[JPG]

Hello Tony,

I have just found your information and work on the Birmingham memorials. I have researched mine and found some links to the city and am I adding any other memorials that I can locate them on. Therefore do these appear in your research:

Barrett, Arthur
Died on July 23rd 1916 as a private in Royal Warwickshire regiment.  He worked for Fisher, Randle & Fisher chartered accountants in Birmingham.

Wakelin, John
Private in the South Staffs 1st Battalion was KIA on September 25th 1915 .He was born in Lichfield but resided in Birmingham

Warmington, Cyril
died on July 30th 1915 serving as a Lance Corporal with the Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry. He resided at 71 Mason Road, Erdington with his parents Henry and May since 1909.

Butler, Frank
died on August 17th 1917 as a private in the Royal Warwickshire 1/8th Battalion. his parents were living at 20 Beech Road Erdington.

Judd, Eustace
Born in Handsworth. Prior to the war he worked for the General Electric Co as an engraver , Witton He died  on July 23rd 1915 aged 32 or 33 in South Staffs 2nd Battalion

McCoy, Harold
Born in  St George’s, Aston, Warwickshire and KIA on November 5th 1916. he had worked in Birmingham as a lamplighter.

thanks for taking the time to check

John

[kevan darby]

Hello John i have this from the Birmingham weekly illustrated Mercury dated 27 Jan 1917

Private John Wakelin (South Staffs) second son, killed in France 25th September 1915.

Kevan

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[JPG]

Kevan,

thanks for posting that image.I never seen a photo and the local paper only had the newspaper reports. Is it worth me perusing that newspaper for other information

John

[kevan darby]

Hello John here is full article from newspaper, which also has Cpl Alfred Wakelin Kings Shrop Light Inf, Henry Wakelin Gren Guards, Arthur Wakelin RFA prisoner of war Turkey, Edward J Wakelin Prisoner of war Turkey.
if you would like a better copy please pm with email address and i will send you copy.
Kevan

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[Simon_Fielding]

Hi there

I wonder if 15/1594 Pte John Heath 14th Royal Warwicks dow 29/8/1916 appears in any memorial other than the book of remembrance?

Cheers

[Alan Tucker]

Hi there

I wonder if 15/1594 Pte John Heath 14th Royal Warwicks dow 29/8/1916 appears in any memorial other than the book of remembrance?

Cheers

Cannot answer the question but he is mentioned in the Bham Weekly Post Sept 16 1916 with a bit of extra detail - left a widow and 5 children at 8 back, 9, Don Street, Winson Green.

[Simon_Fielding]

Thanks Alan

[Tephrite]

Tony,

If my memory serves me correctly, I think that there are memorial boards in one of the corridors of King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Boys, King' Heath.  I have a feeling they were removed from the old Camp Hill site at Deritend in the 1950's when the King's Heath site was acquired.

As an old Edwardian, I'll see if I can find out more.  Additionally, there should be similar at the KE site on Edgbaston Park Road.  I believe there were a number of Officers that came from both schools, and in the 1970's the Edgbaston School still maintained a CCF.

Malcolm

[subotone]

Hi John

For some reason I had not seen this post before. If you are still after information I can help with a number of the men listed.

Barrett Arthur, remembered on St Mary's Church Hamstead, Hamstead Rd Handsworth.Not listed in the Bham Roll of Honour.

Wakelin John No records

Warmington Cyril, Remembered on the statue outside Sutton Town Hall & St Barnabas Church High St Erdington. Also remembered in the Bham Roll of Honour.

Butler Frank, remembered on the Chester Rd Baptist Church memorial, Chester Rd Sutton.

Judd Eustace, remembered on St Peters & St Pauls church memorial., Aston Church Road Aston.

I have photos of these memorials, if you need a copy let me know.

Regards

Tony

[MartinBennitt]

subotone, on 29 October 2009 - 05:16 PM, said:

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No look either except he is listed in the book "The Roll of Honour of Birmingham Men & Woman who gave Their Lives in The Great War." This means that his name will be in the Bham Hall of Memory.

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Martin

Some time ago you were asking if I knew of a Birmingham war memorial with the name of Bennitt Ernist Gordon. If you are still interested I have found him listed on the Memorial Cross outside St Peters Church, Harborne. The address is Old Church Road, Harborne, Birmingham.

Tony

Hello Tony

sorry for not acknowledging this before, I've only just noticed it when the thread resurfaced. The family home was Clent House, Harborne, which I gather no longer exists

cheers Martin B

[ukphil]

Hi Do you have St James's Handsworth Birmingham.

"Daniel Stevens"

Ukphil

[purley]

subotone, on 19 December 2007 - 10:12 PM, said:

Hi

I am new to this foroum. I have for some years been compiling a data base of war memorials in & around Birmingham. I now have information on about 6500 men from Birmingham. In addition, I have the names, rank & regiment of some12500 men & woman from Birmingham who died in the Great War. Please contact me if you need any information.

Tony

Welcome Tony
I have a list of 259 men from the Birmingham area who died serving with the Royal Berks - are any of these on your memorials? - probably best to respond to john.chapman@purley.eu

dod       serial surname xnames
19181024 42963 Adelstone Claude
19180504 203297 Allen Albert E
19181011 43488 Allen Frederick
19160912 21578 Andrews John
19170731 35191 Anney Arthur
19161019 14665 Anstey Arthur Herbert
19150925 14645 Ashford Leonard
19160727 16229 Ashley Percy
19180404 34372 Attwood William John
19170805 202689 Bailey Leonard
19180402 35544 Ball John Henry
19181104 45840 Barr Benjamin
19170424 23953 Beckingham George E
19171206 37995 Beech Sidney
19170914 35904 Beedle Frederick Edward
19150509 5285 Bellamy William
19160909 14929 Bennett William
19180926 27571 Betteridge Charles Henry
19181030 28542 Bird Thomas
19161028 12484 Boden Arthur James
19160903 21021 Boniface James
19180611 42274 Boucher Harry
19170214 18229 Bowdler George
19180427 42277 Boyling William John
19180811 50739 Bradbury Samuel
19170418 26764 Brandford Frederick
19170418 26764 Branford Frederick
19170408 27380 Brewer Frederick
19181104 45846 Brittle Archie Robert
19150925 14886 Bromwich Thomas Albert
19180527 202690 Brown Charles S
19160411 21155 Bryant John
19170708 25443 Bullock Joseph William
19150925 14624 Burgess Jack W
19170901 15075 Burr John
19171012 203315 Busby Oliver
19180406 15011 Caden Harry
19171120 27284 Carey Henry Bayliss
19150925 14629 Carlill Sydney Francis
19181106 42279 Cashmore John Arthur
19160827 5894 Chapman William John
19160827 202068 Chapman William John
19171107 28552 Chatwin Job
19170917 35858 Chew Samuel
19150925 14622 Clark Thomas
19150925 14622 Clarke Thomas
19181010 50687 Clatworthy William Henry John
19180427 35507 Clayton Walter William
19160708 10449 Collins William George
19180525 48637 Constable Frederick Victor
19180728 20229 Conway Louis Alfred
19171009 11360 Corfield William
19171009 12278 Corfield William
19180405 26084 Cotton Walter
19150730 11824 Dakin Robert
19170822 32234 Davenport Harold Ernest
19151013 10477 Dawes James Frederick
19180527 35549 Dawson Harold
19170228 31394 Dockerty William Henry Herbert
19170529 27377 Doherty William
19180325 38386 Doidge James
19170815 21605 Dove Percy
19170404 27296 Downes Harry Albert
19180405 37367 Dudley Albert
19170430 37365 Duffield Lewis Victor
19181014 227039 Dugmore Samuel Gregory
19180507 25796 Duley Arthur James
19170615 14659 Dyas Walter
19181104 27381 Easthope Ernest
19180427 22459 Eaton Frederick Joseph
19180808 5724 Edge Richard
19180808 201944 Edge Richard
19180427 35875 Eley Ernest
19160730 27617 Ellis Nicholas
19180926 42936 Ellis William
19171008 24228 Evans George  
19161019 15664 Evans John Walter
19161206 36725 Farley Albert George
192406 25869 Farley Francis Frederick
19180321 37896 Farr Frederick William
19160701 12501 Faulkner Albert Victor
19180902 220117 Fothergill Frederick
19180405 32153 France Harry
19180930 26766 Gardner Charles
19180209 201961 Garner Edwin A
19180209 5750 Garner Edwin A
19180930 43228 Gaul Bernard William
19180920 35510 Gee Robert
19150826 12363 Gee Stephen John
19180824 220168 Grady Sidney
19170304 26854 Groves Alfred Harry
19160621 12274 Hadley Joseph
19171012 38116 Haines Leonard
19161119 23714 Hainge Arthur George
19151013 13761 Hall Alfred
19160629 12395 Halley Arthur
19170429 21585 Hambleton Bernard
19180511 21016 Handley George
19171231 27302 Handley James Edward
19180402 203272 Handy Arthur James
19170713 34989 Hawthorne William
19171120 37719 Hayton William
19160808 23669 Hemmett Frederick Charles
19180318 41464 Hemmings Andrew Arthur
19180511 41604 Hill Arthur George
19180808 48568 Hill John
19180525 220788 Hillman Charles Thomas
19160724 14621 Hingley Harry
19170428 35020 Hinton Horace Herbert
19170427 37364 Holder Walter
19180901 14647 Holwell John
19171130 37746 Honeybone William
19170216 20477 Honeywood Herbert
19171130 34984 Hope Reginald
19150926 16812 Hughes Frank
19171121 21723 Hunt William Frank
19170731 35170 Hutt Sydney
19161002 12393 Inett Ernest Frank
19180415 21583 Irving James
19171231 38217 Jelfs Joseph
19161113 22142 Jeynes Thomas Richard
19180827 38775 Jones Albert
19161114 10892 Jones Charles William
19201120 27386 Jones David William
19181104 43265 Jones Edward
19181028 43329 Jones John
19160809 23715 Jones Mathew Alfred
19160701 12390 Jones William
19170331 22521 Judge Robert
19180410 12285 Justain Harold John
19170913 35630 Kent Bert
19171120 35628 Kingston William
19180902 35563 Kirk Frederick Richard
19160703 22847 Kirkwood George Osman
19170510 15102 Knight Leonard
19171119 220301 Lamb Frank
19170919 18362 Latham Charles Bernard
19181010 21017 Lawrence Herbert George
19170923 27181 Leech Harry
19180822 14898 Leech Sidney William
19160814 5709 Liddiard Edward
19160701 12345 Lloyd Edward
19170304 21720 Long George
19180827 27252 Lovegrove Harry William
19171130 35838 Loveridge Albert
19180826 36028 Macdonald Arthur
19180403 15411 Marlow Francis John
19180825 39151 Martin Arthur James
19171120 12351 Martin Walter Thomas Stanley
19170827 36831 Mason Leonard Arthur George
19160403 14915 Massey William
19160701 12427 Maysey Frank
19160701 12428 Merrix George Arthur
19180919 43007 Mills Reginald David
19181015 43406 Moore Frederick George
19170303 21908 Moore Walter
19160719 12696 Muir John Wallace
19181023 45936 Mullins Alfred Ernest
19180403 220077 Murchington James
19180427 5835 Musgrave John Charles
19180427 202024 Musgrave John Charles
1916 20214 Neale Arthur Joseph
19690621 17049 Needle Albert
19160405 12265 Newman Alfred
19141026 7932 Newman Harry George
19170509 23366 Newman William
19181104 43281 Nichols Ernest Leonard
19180808 42377 Nichols John
19171130 35857 Palmer Frederick James
19171012 41451 Paperell Arthur
19170503 37539 Parkes Harry
19170822 20217 Partridge Henry Edmond
19170822 12369 Partridge Henry Edmond
19170822 202915 Partridge Henry Edmond
19171012 41451 Pepperell Arthur
19180822 35584 Perkins Albert
19180321 220131 Perry Richard Alexander
19171130 21090 Pettifer Harry
19170217 12266 Phipps John
19171212 32465 Pilling Albert
19180811 20885 Price Luke
19170506 28567 Pullen Leonard James
19181005 21279 Raban George Joseph
19181017 43487 Rabin Charles
19171120 35854 Radburn William Charles
19180921 45178 Radcliffe Arthur Holman
19170501 10635 Read George Frederick
19170321 28384 Richards William Henry
19180103 15292 Roberts Leonard
19170429 21911 Robins James Colwell
19180926 42895 Robinson Alfred George
19180929 42845 Robinson Wallace
19180808 220142 Roche Frederick
19180610 50669 Rodd Herbert Alfred
19180926 42929 Rogers Harry
19181007 29144 Rollason James
19151013 14652 Round James
19180527 37726 Roy Charles Herbert
19180910 44638 Russ Walter Clement
19161010 12556 Russell George Frederick
19181024 43203 Sanders Thomas
19170310 11827 Saunders Louis
19171120 35583 Sawyer Martin
19160714 16144 Sayer James William
19180425 43622 Sears Arthur
19161231 25460 Selby William Henry
19180808 203301 Sharman George William
19180405 22140 Shepherd Albert George
19180323 22303 Sheppard Jack
19181015 42903 Simmonds William
19181027 45984 Siviter Braithet Eustace
19181112 44670 Smith Christopher
19170731 30862 Smith Ernest Alexander
19171104 12309 Smith George
19151014 16603 Smith George
19171130 202858 Smith William Frederick
19180509 45098 Snooks William Arthur
19180228 220164 Spencer Thomas
19180929 43979 Sreeves Francis Augustine
19170913 35855 Stevens Albert Edward
19180827 45643 Steward Arthur Thomas
19161001 28523 Stokes Harry
19180703 50677 Sutton William Henry
19180827 220742 Talbot William Allen
19170731 39394 Taylor Ernest
19180327 202999 Taylor Frederick
19180922 202862 Taylor William Henry
19171119 34963 Toddington William
19180525 23710 Trillow Charles Henry
19170917 32302 Troughton Walter
19181014 22412 Turner Thomas John
19180410 12285 Tustain Harold John
19170817 203300 Tyler Wat
19180809 44980 Veare David
19181101 43179 Verity Percy
19180905 45992 Walden John Martin
19160605 20886 Walker Harry
19160601 14912 Walker William Henry
19160419 9855 Ward Sidney Howard Lakin
19180331 36795 Warr William Basil
19181115 20408 White William
19170731 33706 White William
19160701 18363 Whitehead Sydney
19170731 35216 Whitehouse John
19180905 46000 Wilcox Frederick
19180826 38046 Williams Arthur Samuel
19180402 36820 Williams Edward Howard
19180918 36167 Williams Francis James
19180825 27384 Williams Percy Robert
19180405 29606 Willmott William N
19181118 22864 Windridge George
19180219 203013 Winter William Henry
19180219 26554 Winter William Henry
19180219 20316 Winter William Henry
19161223 26857 Wood William James
19150925 9212 Woodward Joseph
19170709 35012 Woolley Arthur Edward
19160901 14954 Wort Thomas
19180808 36724 Wyatt John Thomas

many thanks

PS some years ago I gave the central library a list of over 6500 men from the area who served with the R Berks coming from Birmingham

John

[Magnumbellum]

Tephrite, on 26 November 2009 - 09:10 PM, said:

If my memory serves me correctly, I think that there are memorial boards in one of the corridors of King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Boys, King' Heath.  I have a feeling they were removed from the old Camp Hill site at Deritend in the 1950's when the King's Heath site was acquired.

As an old Edwardian, I'll see if I can find out more.  Additionally, there should be similar at the KE site on Edgbaston Park Road.  I believe there were a number of Officers that came from both schools.

The memorial tablets for old boys (both wars) of King Edward's School, Birmingham, are in the School Chapel, being the rebuilt upper corridor of the Barry building in New Street, demolished 1936.

[ksli]

Tony
dont know if you have any info on this chap, but if so can you help
2/Lieutenant, Charles Cyril Smith, 5th Shropshire L.I., KIA Hooge 25-Sep-1915, mother name
given has Mrs Smith 26 Harmen Rd. Erdington, Birmingham,
cannott find out anything on him any help most appriciated
SHROPSHIRE