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#1 ejcmartin

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 10:26 AM

Many years ago I graduated from Earl Haig Secondary School. As I lay in bed last night having some difficulty falling asleep I began to wonder (or was it wander) about other places etc. named after Great War Generals.

I know for example that here are a number of mountain peaks in the Canadian Rockies named after generals. I can definitely recall Mount Joffre and Mount Smith-Dorrien, but I know there are more. I shall try to look them up.

When I lived in Toronto my apartment backed onto Gough Avenue, although I do not know if it was named after the general. The age of the neighbourhood was about right though.

It's a stretch but the award for the most gentlemanly player in the National Hockey League is the Lady Byng Trophy.

Any Pals know of others.

Just a curiousity.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 10:32 AM

Did a Google and found this list of Great War related peaks. The list is extensive including generals and battles.

http://www.rmbooks.c...Cat=World War I

There is a Mount Currie but no Mount Haig.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 11:55 AM

Allenby Square in Jerusalem.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 12:55 PM

I can't believe I forget Kitchener, Ontario. Up to the Great War is was known as Berlin, not from Paris and London, Ontario that is.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 01:14 PM

I spent a couple of nights in Ladysmith....

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 01:57 PM

Yes, yes, and I bet she was relieved when that was over ...

Considering how many Avenue Foch's there are in France, our generals don't seem to have fared very well. Not even many pub names by comparison with generals of earlier eras.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (ejcmartin @ Mar 14 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't believe I forget Kitchener, Ontario.

A charmless place which I visted a year or so back. Still significant evidence in shop names, etc, of a large community originating from Germany.

Nice war memorial though, which, I recall, flies the Union Jack alongside the Mapleleaf.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 03:23 PM

In Concord, New Hampshire there are Joffre, Haig and Nivelle Streets. and in Portsmouth NH, there are Lens and Marne Avenues..
Of course being able to explain to any and all the meanings of these names makes me a boon companion, let me tell you...

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:02 PM


Most towns in France seem to have an Avenue or Boulevard Foch, but not so many Joffres, and NO Petains.

cheers Martin B

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:18 PM

We have a rather nice equestrian statue of Foch just down the road from my office.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:19 PM

A 50s development here has streets named after WW2 leaders. Harris, Portal, Tedder, Wingate, Alexander, Montgomery, Auchinleck and Gort. Can't be many monuments to Gort and Harris?

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (MartinBennitt @ Mar 14 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most towns in France seem to have an Avenue or Boulevard Foch, but not so many Joffres, and NO Petains.

cheers Martin B


Were there Petain Boulevards prior to WWII?

There is a Mount Niville in the Cdn Rockies. I also found out there is a Mount Sir Douglas, which was named after Haig. Quite near Mount Smith-Dorrien. Rumour has that when storms hit Mount Smith- Dorrien, it remains sunny over at Mount Sir Douglas. wink.gif

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:21 PM

The town of Birdwood is in the Adelaide Hills, South Australia. The name was changed from Blumberg in 1918.
General Birdwood visited it on his Australian tour and laid the foundation stone of a memorial arch.

Monash is a small town in the same state, named after the General. It was named in 1921.

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:34 PM

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My mate Yves lives in rue Gallieni.
I myself went to the A.Shicklegruber 6th form college in Blaydon

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (ejcmartin @ Mar 14 2008, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Were there Petain Boulevards prior to WWII?


Good point, I would imagine so but haven't come across any in pre-war addresses.

One of the termini on the metro line that takes me to work is called Gallieni. There is also a boulevard Pershing in Paris, but no 'Aig.

The international concession in Shanghai between the wars had an avenue Joffre and an avenue Haig.

cheers Martin B


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Posted 14 March 2008 - 05:07 PM

I find it hard to believe that there was never a rue Pétain in France after the war.The hero of Verdun & France,after all,was well celebrated after the war.
This from a frog forum talking about the Armenian genocide(or lack of one!)
"Avez-vous déjà vu une Avenue Pétain en France ou un Boulevard Hitler en Allemagne? Non, sûrement pas car cela serait terriblement choquant! "
So I'm guessing rolleyes.gif that they exist no more.
I have done a google.fr search & haven't found one yet...

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 12:48 PM

And a Monash University.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 04:07 PM

Just remembered: there is a Birdwood Road in Cambridge, named (I suspect) after his spell as Chancellor of the University). Haig Road, Cambridge, was bulldozed some years ago in a road improvement scheme. dry.gif

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 01:07 PM


In Brussels a couple of weeks ago I came across a 1943 Paris street directory in a second-hand bookshop and remembered this thread. There was indeed an avenue Maréchal Pétain in the posh 16th arrondissement. According to the directory it ran from avenue Grande Armée to the Port Dauphine, but there was no map included and there is no street I can find today that seems to match it exactly.

I've also managed to find streets formerly named after Pétain in Nice and Thionville. In Montluçon, the rue de la Gare was renamed after the Maréchal after he visited the town in 1941. It's now named after Marx Dormoy, the former mayor of the town who was a socialist minister before the war and one of the few deputies in the assembly who refused to grant full powers to Pétain. He was assassinated at the end of World War II.

There was also a Place Maréchal Pétain in Verdun, of course, but that was also renamed in 1945.

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 01:37 PM

Houston has a Pershing middle school.

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:40 PM

QUOTE (Chris Henschke @ Mar 15 2008, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The town of Birdwood is in the Adelaide Hills, South Australia. The name was changed from Blumberg in 1918.
General Birdwood visited it on his Australian tour and laid the foundation stone of a memorial arch.

Monash is a small town in the same state, named after the General. It was named in 1921.

Chris Henschke

Chris,
Since you practically live on Birdwood Street (after the General) I am surprised you didn't mention that as well as Birdwood the town.

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 03:13 PM

In my kid's boarding school the houses are named as follows: Alanbrooke, Haig, Clive, Kitchener, Marlborough, Roberts, Wellington, Wolfe and Wolseley, but then it is the Duke of York's Royal Military School! As an aside the body of the Unknown Soldier was laid for one night in the school chapel on his last journey to London.

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (John Hartley @ Mar 15 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A charmless place which I visted a year or so back.



Obviously you haven't stayed in Fitzroy Crossing, Western Australia, John. It is about as appealing as a barbed wire G-string and makes Kitchener, Ontario look like an absolute tourist must see.

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE (Steven Broomfield @ Mar 14 2008, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I spent a couple of nights in Ladysmith....


Bet Lordsmith was annoyed

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 07:14 AM

Blokes,
I lived in Birdwood Ave, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia. Ballarat had a lot of 'A' men 25 APR 15.

59165, Sir,

Gallieni, was an old fashion Hero----

There are many streets in Sydney named after WW1 battles and places-----many of whom the locals know little about. As a kid l didn't until l was told about Birdwood.

Anyone - especially--Canadians read about ' 2 gun Cohen', not directly linked to WW1 but close. Cohen place in Melbourne, Aus.
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