SPOF
May 12 2009, 10:10 PM
I don't know if you guys already have this but......
CWGC
Name: WINTERBORN, JAMES EDWIN
Initials: J E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gloucestershire Regiment
Unit Text: 2nd/6th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 19/07/1916
Service No: 5983
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. John Winterborn, of 448, London Rd., South Lowestoft.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 60 to 64.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
http://www.glosters.org.uk/soldier/39758
Winterborn, James E - Statement of Service
Surname: Winterborn Initials: JEW
First Name: James
Place of Birth: Norwich
Rank: Private
SERVICE DETAILS
Service Number: 267217
Battalion: 2/6
Enlisted: Norwich *
Associated: Lowestoft
Ex-number: 005983
Ex-unit: 6 NORFOLK REGT
END OF SERVICE
Reason: Died
Where: FRANCE
Grave: MR0019
1901 Census
RG13\1801\88 Page 7
Carlton Colville, Suffolk
42 Victoria Road
Agnes A Winterborn, Wife, M, 35, b Suffolk Carlton Colville
James E Winterborn, Son, 8, b Norfolk Aylsham
George A Winterborn, Son, 6, b Norfolk Aylsham
Muriel A Winterborn, Dau, 1 b Suffolk Carlton Colville
FreeBMD
Sep 1892
Winterborn, James Edwin, Aylsham 4b 98
Dec 1894
Winterborn, George Albert, Aylsham 4b 91
Sep 1899
Winterborn, Muriel Agnes, Mutford 4a 1036
Sep 1898
WINTERBORN Cecil Thomas W Aylsham 4b 86
(died Sep 1900 Winterborn, Cecil T W, 2, Aylsham 4b 56
Parents Marriage
Dec 1891
Winterborn, John, Aylsham 4b 225
Codling, Agnes Ann, Aylsham 4b 225
MelPack
May 13 2009, 07:05 AM
Glen
You must be psychic!
This was one of the soldiers that I needed help with due to the family mistranscription as Winterlison in the 1901 census and the father being absent.
Many thanks
Mel
SPOF
May 13 2009, 09:26 PM
QUOTE (MelPack @ May 13 2009, 08:05 AM)

Glen
You must be psychic!
This was one of the soldiers that I needed help with due to the family mistranscription as Winterlison in the 1901 census and the father being absent.
Many thanks
Mel
Mel
As you seem to have the Warks covered, I went through the working list and selected the Suffolk men (I come from a long line in Suffolk as well as Warks). The others are
5313,Private, KNIGHTS, WILLIAM , A Coy.2nd/1st Bucks Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry, Beccles Suffolk
5342, Lance Corporal, WOOD, STANLEY, 2nd/1st Bucks Bn. Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry,Oulton Broad Suffolk
so if you're happy for me to look into them for you. then I will.
Glen
MelPack
May 14 2009, 01:19 PM
Glen
I am relieved to learn that you are not psychic
Many thanks for your offer of help. We are just in the process of working our way through the OBLIs, so we will be posting any where difficulties are encountered.
Mel
SPOF
May 14 2009, 03:46 PM
More psycho than psychic most people say
I'll save you some time and warn you that William A Knights is actually William M Knights
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,381333.0.html
SPOF
May 20 2009, 07:58 PM
Good news from the East Anglia Times and the other forum I linked to
However, I think someone must have noticed it as today's edition carries a very good article about the descendants of two of the men.
James Edwin Winterborn (known by his middle name)
his niece has been found and is delighted to provide DNA for the project. Her mother, Edwin's sister had passed away in 1985 and was always sad that she never knew what had happened to her brother. The family will be overjoyed if they can find his body and give him a proper buried together with his comrades.
Herbert Bird
Great Nephew has been found. He is the grandson of Sgt Bird's brother who also perished in WWI. He too thinks it wonderful that they have found these men so that they can be laid to rest properly.
A telephone number for Historic Casualty Casework is given as the main point of contact in the UK. I can't find the article on the online edition though.
I've been doing some research on the Aylsham War memorial recently, and included a trip to the Aylsham Town Cemetery for some background information - there will quite often be family memorials that include a reference to a loved one lost overseas.
So I was quite suprised to find the grave plot for John and Agnes Ann Winterborn, which contained a reference to James Edwin, their eldest son missing Lavantie July 19th 1916. James isn't mentioned on the town War Memorial or on the Church Memorial in St Michaels.
I'll try and attach a couple of pictures I took, (more as an aide memoire for me so apologies for the quantity).