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206thCEF
Written by Bryan Cooper,Major, General List New Armies, Formerly 5th Service Battalion The Connaught Rangers.
Dated 1918.
Contains a list of Officers Killed, Wounded and Missing.
Names of Officers, NCOs and ORs Mentioned in Despatches.
Names of Officers, NCOs and ORs Awarded Honours.

From the American Libraries Internet Archive files.
Joe

http://www.archive.org/details/tenthirishdivisi00cooprich
jim_davies
Joe,

Thank you for posting this. I had actually been looking for a copy.

Jim
museumtom
Good man Joe. Yet another cracker.
Kind regards.
Tom.
206thCEF
Thank you very much Jim and Tom. I greatly appreciate your comments.
Regards
Joe
irishmen1916
Thanks Joe, looking forward to reading this.

Peter
206thCEF
Thanks Peter.

Joe
jim_davies
Joe,

Now having time to read the parts of the book that interest me from a family history perspective, I think you have actually done me even more of a service.

My great-great uncle Charles Jarvis served with 5/Connuaght Rangers, being reported KIA on 27 Aug 1915, the date the battalion assaulted Hill 60. Always puzzled me why most of the battalion's dead for this period were reported on 28 Aug, whereas a smaller number were reported (like Charles) as 27 Aug 1915. 1914-15 Star Roll also showed that a minority of men reported as dead on 27/28 AUg 1915 were KIA, whereas most were "regarded as dead", suggesting that some like Charles were definitely known to have been killed, whereas the majority was initially reported missing. Not uncommon in confused, failed assualts which resulted in the enemy holding most of the battlefield.

While its not conclusive proof of anything, I read with great interest Mahon's description of the battalion's assault, especially that after the "stormer" party had gained the Turkish lines, the second wave followed. These men suffered heavy losses, including a number of men who actually fell back into the Britsih trench dead. I can only wonder whether this explains the difference between the dates of death and the KIA/"Regarded as Dead" issue.

Jim
206thCEF
Sorry Jim to take so long to answer you. Good Luck in your research.
Cheers
Joe
mhifle
Hi,


For 3059 Lance Corporal Charles Jarvis, 5th Connaught Rangers. I think his number 3059 would have him enlisting during Nov 1915.

Number 3010 was given to Sergeant Major John Hudson who joined the 5th Battalion from the Irish Guards 19 Oct 1915.

25 recruits joined the Battalion from Galway 7 Nov 1915

1 recruit joined the Battalion from Castlebar 7 Nov 1915

35 recruits jopined the Battalion from Galway 9 Nov 1915, going by the sequence of numbers I think he woukld most likely have been with this group.

Regards Mark
jim_davies
Hi Mark,

Charles enlisted with the Yorks and Lancs in Aug 1914, and appears to have been part of the large scale transfer from that Regt to the 5th Connaught Rangers in late 1914 as mentioned in Jourdain. Charles was definitely serving with the Rangers in early 1915, and prior to his arrival at Gallipoli.

I suspect that the Rangers may have had some duplication in service numbers, ie regular, special reserve etc.

Regards,

Jim
mhifle
QUOTE (jim_davies @ Sep 1 2009, 02:38 AM) *
Hi Mark,

Charles enlisted with the Yorks and Lancs in Aug 1914, and appears to have been part of the large scale transfer from that Regt to the 5th Connaught Rangers in late 1914 as mentioned in Jourdain. Charles was definitely serving with the Rangers in early 1915, and prior to his arrival at Gallipoli.

I suspect that the Rangers may have had some duplication in service numbers, ie regular, special reserve etc.

Regards,

Jim


Hi Jim,

Yes 350 recruits from Pontrfract mostly composed of men who had enlisted in Yorkshire for the Yorks & Lancs arrived at the 5th Battalion 11 Sept 1914.

Service numbering seems to have been very complex at the time

Regards Mark

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