Can anyone help me locate Charak Chesme (or alternative spelling) please? The context would imply that it is behind the British front line at Suvla, or maybe the left flank of ANZAC.

Many thanks for any help

John

Found a Cesme, Turkey on Google maps if that helps...


Çeşme is a coastal town and the center-town of the district of the same name in Turkey's western-most end, on a promontory on the tip of the peninsula which also carries the same name and which extends inland to form a whole with the wider Karaburun Peninsula

I wonder if in this context cesme is a well?

Or the name of a trench line?

Lyn

John,

It was just a little [c. one & a quarter miles] in-land from Suvla Point, and is shown here as 'Charak Cheshme'



and Lyn, as far as I can tell from another map there was indeed a well there

regards
Michael

ps: sorry, forgot to credit the map to the CD Rom published by the N&M Press and the IWM

Many thanks to those that replied and to Michael for the map. The position on the map accords well with the context.

John

Hi all,

just saw this thread. Yes, there was and still is a cesme at the site on the map posed by Michael, with water still flowing.

To clarify, a cesme is a fountain, in this case a stone wall with a pipe coming out of it with water running into a stone trough below. The cesme is a watering point for local sheep herders, along with local wildlife.

A pinar, as the one marked on the map, is a spring. The one marked also is still there and supplying water.

Cheers
Bill

Nice to hear from you again Bill and thanks for the update on the wells
"A Pinar .... is a spring"
I hope that Guven P is well as well
and if seen, then please pass on my very best regards
as indeed they go to you and yours

Michael

To clarify, a cesme is a fountain, in this case a stone wall with a pipe coming out of it with water running into a stone trough below. The cesme is a watering point for local sheep herders, along with local wildlife.

There is a good photograph of one of these 'fountains' or cesme op. page 262, in Vol.II of the OH
the pic is captioned 'A Turkish Fountain on Kiretch Tepe Ridge'

Bill

Could I echo those sentiments and say how good it is to see you posting again and having the benefit of your local and specialist knowledge.

Long shot - but are there any visible 'footprints' of the British artillery positions at this location as far as you can recall? (BTW typical artillery to park themselves on a spot with a plentiful water supply!!)

All the best
John