Hi can ayone fill me in with the fiull names of the following.

S A Sharpe 40 Sqn.
V O Lonsdale 57 Sqn.
E A Marchant 216 Sqn.
Lt R W Heine 216 Sqn.
1/Lt F F Jewett USAS.
G Chadwick 19 Sqn.
C E Stuart 70 Sqn.
R H Richardson 102 Sqn.
W D Chambers 20 Sqn.
F H Berry 20 Sqn.
C A Shum 23 Sqn.
F C Coops 23 Sqn.


Thanks


John_g

Frank Cecil Coops
Charles A R Shum

Victor Oswald Lonsdale

F C Coops 23 Sqn.

Probably Frank Cecil - birth reg 2nd qtr 1892 Barton Upon Irwell, Lancs

Has a few pages on Ancestry from his initial (2/9/1914) enlistment in the ranks as 17/15168 - 17th (Service) Battalion Liverpool Regiment - discharged for purpose of re-enlistment in Inns of Court OTC (30/7/1915)

C A Shum 23 Sqn.

Could he have been C A R Shum (several mentions in LG and Flight archives) - if so - again probably (because I can't be 100% certain)

Charles Arthur R Shum - birth reg 1/4 1887 Pancras (London/Middlesex)

Has a Royal Aero Club Certificate on Ancestry (with a photo) - Charles Arthur Robert Shum born 7th December 1877 - London

Cheers
Sue

Sydney Ansely Sharpe
Victor Oswald Lonsdale
Robert Harold Richardson

Robert Harold Richardson

E A Marchant 216 Sqn.
Lt R W Heine 216 Sqn.
1/Lt F F Jewett USAS.
G Chadwick 19 Sqn.
C E Stuart 70 Sqn.
W D Chambers 20 Sqn.
F H Berry 20 Sqn.

These to go ( just summarising )

G Chadwick 19 Sqn.

Again - a probability - George Chadwick - has a Royal Aero Club certificate (with a photo) on Ancestry - born 29th June 1894 - Adlington Lancs - at the time a Captain in the 1/7 Manchester Regiment. His MIC shows Manchester Regiment and RAF service

Cheers
Sue

ADM 273/25 Page 64: Roland Wallace Heine. RNAS Officers Service

Have you tried AIR 76?

Hasn't Heine been mentioned on this forum before? I've tried searching but cant find a thread.

Mick

Lt. W. D. Chambers was previously Canadian A.S.C.

Neither can I.

Are all these men officers? Here's an RN rating I found to match: Name Marchant, Edward Albert Official Number: 145361.

Lt. William Dancy CHAMBERS, DOB 4 March 1885, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada; in "real estate", in Ottawa,
when he was commissioned in the CEF in 1914. Had prewar service (5th RHC?). Cannot find MIC for him.

Trelawney

Hi Chaps,
First of all sorry I have not replied but was out yesterday and I have not received any notification of replies since my last post.

I have not been able to get down to Kew for some weeks, so I have not been able to check AIR76 etc.

I will get back when I have printed all the info off and made some sense of it.

Many thanks to you all for the help.

john_g



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Heine is really niggling me now - I know this man but just cannot think of the context.

Mick

auchonvillerssomme, per ardua per mare per terram

Lt's Heine and Marchant were in 216 Sqn, and might have been ex RNAS?

Thanks

john_g

First of all thanks for everyone’s help, that just leaves me to sort out.

E A Marchant 216 Sqn.
1/Lt F F Jewett USAS.
C E Stuart 70 Sqn.
F H Berry 20 Sqn.

john_g


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Heine definately was, see the record above it mentions that it is for his RNAS service.

Worldwide Ancestry has a US Draft Registration Card for a Frank Frederick Jewett born 28th January 1893 - St Joseph, Missouri - registered in Kansas City - working as some sort of Inspector for the US Government in New Orleans

He was the only likely candidate in the 1910 census and appears to have survived to make the 1920 and 1930 census records - but again I caution he is a very likely - not an absolute definite

Cheers
Sue

Thanks Sue,

I will keep him on the list as a possible.

john_g

I suspect this may be Francis Horace Berry, commissioned into Royal Scots (TF) 26th August 1915 and seconded to the RFC as a Flying Officer (Observer) 28th August 1917.

Regards

Steve

A possible could be Charles Edwin Stuart. Index to Officers' Long Number Papers shows him as 2nd Lieutenant, General List & RFC.

Regards

Steve

A long shot, could possibly be Ernest Arthur Marchant, Index to Officer's Long Papers shows this name but no other details.

Regards

Steve

Thanks Steve, I will try and check them out

John_g


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John,

Ernest Arthur Marchant is probably not a match: his MIC, GS/67192, says 22nd London Regiment & Royal Fusiliers (nothing for RFC/RAF).
A second MIC, for Ernest A. Marchant, 2228 & 530510, gives two listings for the 15th London Regiment (again, no RFC/RAF).

Frank Frederick Jewett may well be your man; he died 22 September 1940 as a Colonel, U.S. Army, Retired, Infantry (he could well
have been reassigned from USAS to Infantry in the postwar downsizing of the former); as Sue already said, he was born
28 January 1893, at St.Louis, Missouri, USA & was living in Kansas City, Kansas (not KC, Missouri) when he registered for
the draft in 1917.

John--An interesting post on William Robert Gregory, M.C., for whom W.B. Yeats most certainly did compose the poem to which
you refer. Thank you for clarifying the likely circumstances of his death.

Trelawney

The problem with the online MICs is that they are War Office/ army documents; only a tiny percentage of RFC or RAF men are listed for army awards (such as the 1914, 1914/15 Stars or gallantry medals). The RAF MICs have yet to be released to the public. There is also the problem that the clerks completing these indexes to medal rolls didn't always fill in all the sections. For the above card for Ernest Arthur Marchant GS/67192 of 2/2 London Regiment there are the remarks comm[issioned] 4 July 1918 [date expanded], but the clerk didn't fill in that he was a Second Lieutenant. Another remark mentions that the "medals are to be issued by A/M"[The Air Ministry], but again the clerk has neglected to put in the crucial abbreviation RAF in unit, corps etc! Ernest Arthur Marchant is your man.

Trelawney


Thanks for comments re Gregory, I am aware that Yeats wrote the poem about Gregory, unusually for me I was trying to diplomatic for reasons I will not bore you all with.


per ardua per mare per terram


I will check all these names out in month or so when I can next get down to the NA. So I will keep you posted at a future date.

john_g

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