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Hallam Lad
This topc has probably been aired before but, Ive just been looking through numerous York & Lancs Medal Cards and there is no indication of the Croix de Guerre, at least 22 were awarded according to the London Gazette 9th July 1918 issue 30792 .
What was the norm? How were the individuals notified? I believe recipients or next of kin signed for their British awards.
Thanks in anticipation.
Peter

rflory
Peter: As far as I am aware foreign awards, including the Croix de Guerre, are not shown on MICs. Dick Flory
Hallam Lad
QUOTE (rflory @ Oct 8 2009, 12:53 AM) *
Peter: As far as I am aware foreign awards, including the Croix de Guerre, are not shown on MICs. Dick Flory



Hi there, that's what I found out but how were the recipients notified? Looking through some of the London Gazette pages there were several European King that bestowed different types of Honours.

Regards Peter
dycer
Peter,
An example from a War Diary(8th Royal Scots).
11th November 1915-No.646 Sgt Frank Stevenson,"A" Company,was awarded the Medaille Militaire,"for his coolness and bravery in attending the wounded and the efficient manner in which he commanded his platoon at Festubert on 17th-18th May,1915,when his Officer and platoon Sergeant were casualties".The presentation was made by the Army Commander at Acheux on the 14th November.
George
rflory
They were notified by the London Gazette entry for the award and by letter. Below is an example of the letter sent with a FrenchCroix de Guerre and the accompanying citation. Dick Flory

And the citation:
Hallam Lad
QUOTE (dycer @ Oct 8 2009, 09:43 AM) *
Peter,
An example from a War Diary(8th Royal Scots).
11th November 1915-No.646 Sgt Frank Stevenson,"A" Company,was awarded the Medaille Militaire,"for his coolness and bravery in attending the wounded and the efficient manner in which he commanded his platoon at Festubert on 17th-18th May,1915,when his Officer and platoon Sergeant were casualties".The presentation was made by the Army Commander at Acheux on the 14th November.
George


Hi George, the answer then would be for me is to read the war diares more thoroughly, I had them for the 1/4 & 1/5 York & Lancs, and it states where some awards had beem awarded but I don't seem to remember presentations.
I was researching Sgt Robert W Hall on a "Soldier" thread and read where he had to hand his DCM over so that the local Lord Mayor could present it to him at a Civil function.
Hallam Lad
QUOTE (rflory @ Oct 8 2009, 05:13 PM) *
They were notified by the London Gazette entry for the award and by letter. Below is an example of the letter sent with a FrenchCroix de Guerre and the accompanying citation. Dick Flory

And the citation:


Hi Dick, many thanks for that information I thought something like that must happen, the powers that be don't give things away without a signature, even a blanket needs one!
That attachment speaks volumes.
Cheers Peter
dycer
Peter,
It appears to the first Foreign Award to the Battalion which may explain the full account.
George
Hallam Lad
QUOTE (dycer @ Oct 8 2009, 06:35 PM) *
Peter,
It appears to the first Foreign Award to the Battalion which may explain the full account.
George


Sorry George, are you refering to London Gazette 9th July 1918 Issue was their first Foreign Award? I came about it quite by chance!

Regards Peter
dycer
Peter.
Sorry for the confusion.
Reading the Battalion War Diary for the whole of the War,few Bravery Awards rate a full mention,other than "x was awarded y".Even then, these mentions do not equate to the total number of British and Foreign Bravery Decorations awarded to members of the Battalion,during WW1,per the History,written in 1919.
Two Awards,however,are given a full detailed report in the Diary,the one I have recorded above and the other relates to Willie Angus VC.
I would presume that as Angus received the only VC awarded to a Man serving in the Battalion in WW1 and Stevenson received the first Foreign Bravery Award awarded,the Diarist felt that both events required a more detailed entry in the War Diary at the time the receipt of the Award was announced to the Battalion in the Field.
George
Hallam Lad
QUOTE (dycer @ Oct 9 2009, 08:58 AM) *
Peter.
Sorry for the confusion.
Reading the Battalion War Diary for the whole of the War,few Bravery Awards rate a full mention,other than "x was awarded y".Even then, these mentions do not equate to the total number of British and Foreign Bravery Decorations awarded to members of the Battalion,during WW1,per the History,written in 1919.
Two Awards,however,are given a full detailed report in the Diary,the one I have recorded above and the other relates to Willie Angus VC.
I would presume that as Angus received the only VC awarded to a Man serving in the Battalion in WW1 and Stevenson received the first Foreign Bravery Award awarded,the Diarist felt that both events required a more detailed entry in the War Diary at the time the receipt of the Award was announced to the Battalion in the Field.
George


Hi George, thanks for enlightening me, I would imagine the Adj./officer writing the diaries at the time would have been under quite a lot of pressure anyway but to get all the facts together then edit all the info would have been some task all handwritten. When would they have been typed up any idea?
The History you refer to above was that produce in book form?
Peter
dycer
Peter,
PM sent.
George
ASHleigh
QUOTE (Hallam Lad @ Oct 7 2009, 07:53 PM) *
This topc has probably been aired before but, Ive just been looking through numerous York & Lancs Medal Cards and there is no indication of the Croix de Guerre, at least 22 were awarded according to the London Gazette 9th July 1918 issue 30792 .
What was the norm? How were the individuals notified? I believe recipients or next of kin signed for their British awards.
Thanks in anticipation.
Peter


Hi Hallam

I don't know if anything I say will be of use but it is nice to be able to give some assistance instead of just recieving it here on this site.

I was in Newcastle's Library looking through the 1918 newspapers to find information about the Salonika Campaign. I studied the information of the soldiers who were killed, injured and given medals. I took particular note of the Croix de Guerre medals as it was connected with the Salonika Campaign. I found two mentions of the medal in a short period. Hope this is of help.

ASHleigh
ForeignGong
QUOTE (dycer @ Oct 8 2009, 09:43 AM) *
Peter,
An example from a War Diary(8th Royal Scots).
11th November 1915-No.646 Sgt Frank Stevenson,"A" Company,was awarded the Medaille Militaire,"for his coolness and bravery in attending the wounded and the efficient manner in which he commanded his platoon at Festubert on 17th-18th May,1915,when his Officer and platoon Sergeant were casualties".The presentation was made by the Army Commander at Acheux on the 14th November.
George


Hi
This award was Gazetted 24.2.1916 P2074 & he is listed as Francis. Seems a very long wait for recognition of an act in May 1915.

ForeignGong
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