high wood
Oct 24 2009, 04:20 PM
I have been unable to locate any information about this man. He does not seem to be on the CWGC database. Can anyone please tell me anything about him?
michaeldr
Oct 24 2009, 04:33 PM
'Flight' 23 July 1915 reports A J Inglis flew 16 mins at the Seaplane School, Windermere
Northern Soul
Oct 24 2009, 04:40 PM
His death (aged 23) was recorded in the Lancaster R.D. in the December 1/4 of 1915. The DC should confirm whether he was serving in the RFC.
Andy.
high wood
Oct 24 2009, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (michaeldr @ Oct 24 2009, 05:33 PM)

'Flight' 23 July 1915 reports A J Inglis flew 16 mins at the Seaplane School, Windermere
This might indicate service with the RNAS but I can find no mention of him.
IPT
Oct 24 2009, 08:14 PM
Apologies if this is a daft question, but could he have still been a civilian?
michaeldr
Oct 24 2009, 08:32 PM
Here's the link to Flight
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/vie...20-%200537.htmlI'm not sure if it proves he was serving by then or not
high wood
Oct 24 2009, 08:46 PM
Michael,
thank you for posting the link it is much appreciated. The original photograph is mounted on a piece of card with the wording written in by hand. I have about 30 such cards from the same (unknown) source. They appear to have been removed from either a board or some kind of roll of honour. There is no obvious connection between the photograhs as they show men from many regiments, the R.F.C. and the R.N. Some are casualties others are not. Some of the photographs seem to have been taken after the war as some men are wearing the 1914/15 Star trio ribbons. There is no obvious connection between the places of residence of those who died to link them. They may have been a school or organisational link that I am not aware of.
The only other RFC related photograph shows 2nd Mechanic (sic) Cedric Arthur Kingsley Muston who came from Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire.
Simon.
Nigel Marshall
Oct 24 2009, 09:20 PM
There is no trace of him in the Royal Aero Club Aviators’ Certificates, 1910-1950 on Ancestry, so I would take from that that he never qualified as a pilot (disregarding the usual difficulties with Ancestry's indexing), and that would tie in with the caption on the card that he was killed in training.
Cheers,
Nigel
high wood
Oct 24 2009, 09:54 PM
Nigel,
thank you for taking the trouble to look for me.
Simon.
Nigel Marshall
Oct 24 2009, 10:26 PM
This from the English Deaths Register for the 4th Quarter of 1915;
Inglis Arthur J S (Age) 23 (Registration District) Lancaster (Entry Ref) 8e 1009.
You now have a first name at least.
That leads me to an Arthur Inglis born in Weymouth in 1892, but without the other initials, I would be hesitant to announce that we have found the man pictured. He is however the only Arthur Inglis to be born in England between 1/4 1891 and 4/4 1893 without a disqualifying middle initial. Looking at the 1901 English Census, he was the 5th of 6 children; 2 girls - 4 boys. His mother is listed as a Charwoman.
Is this child likely to have grown up to be a trainee pilot?
Perhaps we should cast the net a little wider?
I hope this helps?
Cheers,
Nigel
michaeldr
Oct 25 2009, 07:35 AM
The archive at
'Flight' throws up several refs to Inglis at this time, all similar to that mentioned above. The last of these ref seems to be that in the December 10th, 1915 issue
See
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/vie...l?search=Ingliswhere the following is given
Northern Aircraft Co„ Ltd.
The Seaplane School, Windermere.—Flying possible
on Thursday only last week.
With instructor: Benson (6 mins.), Coats (10), Ingham
(12), Macintyre (7), Salton (6), and Stubbs (14). With
instructor as passenger: Inglis (21 mins.),
Note that by this time he had progressed to flying with the instructor as passenger and the training accident may have taken place in poor weather
On the presumption that this is the same Inglis, then it may be a guide as to when to look for the DC
Good luck
Michael
chrisharley9
Oct 25 2009, 09:41 AM
Found him in the Times of 13th Dec 1915 - a motor cycle accident & he was not serving in the RFC at the time of his death
mickdavis
Oct 25 2009, 10:59 AM
If you look at that magnificent book, An Aeeronautical History of the Cumbria, Dumfries and Galloway Region Pt.2 by Peter Connon, there's a photograph, on p.48, of Inglis astride the Triumph Junior motorcycle on which he died. Peter reports that 23 year old Inglis was from 5 Lancaster Crescent, Glasgow and a partner in the family firm of leather merchants, Malcolm Inglis & Co. He joined the seaplane school at Windermere, then a private school run by the Northern Aircraft Co, to train with the intention of joining the RNAS. He and fellow pupil J.A. Coats set out for a motorcycle visit to Blackpool on Wednesday 8 December 1915 and Inlis' engine seized near the village of Yealand, sending the machine into an un-controllable skid. His skull hit a telegraph pole and he died 3 days later in the Royal Lancaster Hospital.
michaeldr
Oct 25 2009, 11:40 AM
Coats survived the accident. Six months later and as a 2nd Lt RFC he was reported as wounded
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/vie...ml?search=Coats
michaeldr
Oct 25 2009, 11:54 AM
Coats survived the war and a Jan 1919 edition of
Flight notes that, as a Captain (Act. Maj) he received the Air Force Cross
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/vie...ml?search=CoatsThe LG of 6 May 1919 gave the following
The undermentioned relinquish their
commns. on ceasing to be empld.: —
23rd Apr. 1919.
Capt. (actg. Maj.) J. A. Coats, A.F.C
per ardua per mare per terram
Oct 25 2009, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (high wood @ Oct 24 2009, 08:46 PM)

The only other RFC related photograph shows 2nd Mechanic (sic) Cedric Arthur Kingsley Muston who came from Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire.
Air Mechanic 2nd Class Cedric Arthur Kingsley Muston seems to be a non commemoration. Have you been able to trace his service record?
high wood
Oct 25 2009, 06:18 PM
Chris, Mick and Michael,
thank you very much for the information, it is much appreciated. Thank you to everyone else for your contributions.
Simon.
high wood
Oct 25 2009, 06:21 PM
QUOTE (per ardua per mare per terram @ Oct 25 2009, 01:05 PM)

Air Mechanic 2nd Class Cedric Arthur Kingsley Muston seems to be a non commemoration. Have you been able to trace his service record?
The caption to Cedric Muston's photograph makes no mention of him being a casualty.
per ardua per mare per terram
Oct 26 2009, 08:01 PM
No army Medal Index Card for him (although the UKNA site is being temperamental), so alas its an AIR 78 search. There were also some Mustons who went into the Royal Navy, Royal Marines and Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve.
high wood
Oct 26 2009, 09:18 PM
Thank you for your help. I have started a new post for Cedric Muston.
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