John Gilinsky
Oct 25 2009, 04:02 AM
According to an online Reuters news report a Swedish underwater team have found the British Submarine E 10 sunk in January 1915 with 33 crew who according to the report are still aboard (war grave of course).
John
Toronto
sadsac
Oct 25 2009, 07:09 AM
JOHN, Woops, Reuters are in error. It is the wreck of E18 that has been found. For confirmation see Thread on this Forum HMS/m E18 in the Baltic. Darren/BaticSubs has done extensive research on the boat.
Sadsac
per ardua per mare per terram
Oct 25 2009, 02:17 PM
This thread gives a good round up as to which subs are still to be found:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...p;#entry1290713
John Gilinsky
Oct 25 2009, 10:20 PM
Although I check before posting I took Reuters online to be a reputable source! Oh well! Even the best can be fooled eh?
John
Toronto
What is interesting is that if it is the wreck of the E 18 according to other SOURCES this British sub was decoyed by a 1 or more German decoy ships.
per ardua per mare per terram
Oct 26 2009, 08:20 PM
Even the best can fall foul of a typo. If it was poor research, that's another matter.
John Gilinsky
Oct 27 2009, 12:15 AM
Seniority sir, seniority! As a mere Lt.-Colonel (*I still cannot figure out nor has anyone every told me why there is no rank of COLONEL on GWF ) I defer sir to your commanding knowledge and experience not least of which is the successful attempts at humourous sayings in your post to this topic. I find the story of E 18 quite interesting. Couldn't have been that many British subs falling prey to German Q-ships!
John
Toronto
Darren Brown.
Oct 27 2009, 02:31 AM
Hi John,
E18 was not sunk by a German Q ship. All that is utter rubbish. She was sunk by the converted train ferry Deutschland which had the the E Mines in that area. E18 had simpley strayed off course and hit mines that were recently found. Seems a navigation error.
Here are my notes to show you how some people have researched this Q ship rubbish and got it so wrong.
Although continually quoted as being sunk by the German auxiliary ship K (Kronpinz Wilhelm, a converted trawler) or KE41, (this number seems to be a mix up from the book Conway’s fighting ships 1906 to 1921, they don’t have the submarine losses as a list but as a sentence, it says," E18 sunk by the German decoy ship K. E41 sunk," they are now talking about another submarine, the E41), around the 24-5-1916 this seems totally unlikely as E18 was still in Reval. The ship K did encounter two submarines around this time, in which she did attack but they were both Russian boats operating off the Swedish coast.
Cheers DB
John Gilinsky
Oct 27 2009, 02:53 AM
Thanks Darren, er,...g'day matey!

The advancement of technologies in the past 3 plus decades and the continual finding of more and more wrecks has spurred me to start a thread on Canadian WWI RCN wrecks shortly. Find the Russian wrecks fascinating because many of these vessels were built post-1905 including the subs. We shouldn't forget the Black Sea NOR Eastern European riverine wrecks from the war as well.
Again thanks Darren for clearing our decks of the scuttlebutt!
Petty, petty officer John!
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