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Soren1915
This is quite unbelievable.... from today’s paper: he has also done Sanctuary Wood

And another beauty....

and another beauty.....
PBI
angry.gif.....Thar She Blows !!!!!
auchonvillerssomme
There could never be a poppy wreath big enough! Any thoughts on the brodie though?

Mick
Siege Gunner
This will no doubt cause a storm of righteous indignation, but I suspect the men these monuments commemorate would simply dismiss it with wolf-whistles and ribald comments.

A storm in a T-cup, and making a great fuss about it will only encourage other idiots to do it.
Soren1915
I concur, however we can not just let it pass without making our feelings known, sometimes people get over excited about the gate, the other night I saw skate boarders going under it and felt a red mist, I then wound my neck back in as they were doing no harm, however this is something completely different
Steven Broomfield
QUOTE (Siege Gunner @ Oct 31 2009, 09:52 AM) *
A storm in a T-cup,

Double D, more like.

Pretty revolting, on all levels, but why give these ghastly people the oxygen of publicity?

Actually, why give them oxygen at all?
Peter Bennett
She looks like Boris Karloff's Dog...............
rogerpopeye
Poor dog.
centurion
Funny - when I first read the title of this thread I jumped to the erroneous conclusion it was talking about Mount Sorrell near Loughbrough where Rolls Royce had a factory and I was wracking my brain to think why there would be a Canadian memorial there! However she does look like one of the tea ladies we had - but then so did Les Dawson. Not that we had naked tea ladies - aarrrrgh.

I think the old and best advice is 'ignore them and they'll go away' (the alternative would be a fire hose).
seadog
Well I think that she is a gorgeous BBW. You are all being so unkind with your comments after all the article is in Flemish so it could be that she is raising money for the poppy appeal or doing other good works. I think we need a translation before condemning the f** c**.


Norman mellow.gif
auchonvillerssomme
I've just had a nightmare thought are we sure that is a poppy wreath and not some very hirsute woman playing with some red dye and topiary?
centurion
QUOTE (auchonvillerssomme @ Oct 31 2009, 06:18 PM) *
I've just had a nightmare thought are we sure that is a poppy wreath and not some very hirsute woman playing with some red dye and topiary?



Oh YUK
Peter Bennett
QUOTE (seadog @ Oct 31 2009, 05:00 PM) *
Well I think that she is a gorgeous BBW. You are all being so unkind with your comments after all the article is in Flemish so it could be that she is raising money for the poppy appeal or doing other good works. I think we need a translation before condemning the f** c**.


Norman mellow.gif


Norman

You may well be right, but does this mean we will see hundreds of people stark b****ck naked at the Cenotaph next week.................
centurion
You mean messers Brown, Cameron and Clegg? Quelle image
Siege Gunner
The photo with the wreath is pretty gross/crass by any measure, but the image of the same woman face-down on the memorial plinth, wearing a Brodie, is somehow more becoming and almost artistic. Photo postcards of Juno-esque ladies were very popular in those days, and she does almost look as if she belongs there. I think the sculptor of the plinth might well have enjoyed carving her ample contours as well.
Connor
Sorry, but why is that woman doing this to a Canadian war monument to the dead? And how is "degradation" or "humiliation" being portrayed here? ("vernedering"). Is it a statement or some kind of performance art? Can someone please translate the article?
Soren1915
According to the paper the land is Canadian, they are looking to see if there is something the Canadians can dowith their laws.
Salfordian
QUOTE (PBI @ Oct 31 2009, 10:07 AM) *
angry.gif.....Thar She Blows !!!!!


laugh.gif laugh.gif PMSL !
Connor
Well, we do have laws concerning crimes against humanity....
edwin astill
At least she isn't (as far as I can see) urinating on the memorial - unlike one of our drunken students here in Sheffield a few weeks' ago. By the way - the yobbo concerned was due to appear before the Beaks, but I've not heard how he fared.

Edwin
ianw
I really don't think we should dignify this farce with sensible comment - apart from the obvious disrespect - that the token wreath and brodie cannot ameliorate in my opinion - what baffles me is how such a travesty can be regarded as in any way artistic and worthwhile doing.

"Artists" pah!

Slightly peed off of Leatherhead - reaches for his revolver.
auchonvillerssomme
hopefully the revolver isn't going to be used on yourself?
centurion
I think he is quoting Hanns Johst (a man who liked wearing brown shirts) - well if so he won't be the first to nick the phrase - a rather large ex WW1 fighter pilot pinched it first. Not illustrious company
Siege Gunner
QUOTE (ianw @ Nov 2 2009, 07:38 PM) *
I really don't think we should dignify this farce with sensible comment - apart from the obvious disrespect - that the token wreath and brodie cannot ameliorate in my opinion - what baffles me is how such a travesty can be regarded as in any way artistic and worthwhile doing.


I don't condone this stunt any more than you do, Ian, but the 'with Brodie' photo does have something about it that disinclines me to jump aboard the 'outrage bus' (a concept I learned about recently from the ARSSE forum). The other photo, however, is crass in the extreme. As long as no malice is intended or physical damage done, I personally am not going to get agitated about such things - especially as I'm sure that far worse has been done over the last 90+ years, but without being recorded on film.

'Not especially disgusted', formerly of Hawks Hill, Fetcham ...
Siege Gunner
QUOTE (centurion @ Nov 2 2009, 08:13 PM) *
I think he is quoting Hanns Johst (a man who liked wearing brown shirts) - well if so he won't be the first to nick the phrase - a rather large ex WW1 fighter pilot pinched it first. Not illustrious company.


Do you know the original wording in German, Centurion? The commonly cited translation of Göring's quote mentions 'culture', but I've never found the original.
centurion
QUOTE (Siege Gunner @ Nov 2 2009, 08:21 PM) *
Do you know the original wording in German, Centurion? The commonly cited translation of Göring's quote mentions 'culture', but I've never found the original.


Wenn ich Kultur hore .... ensichere ich meinen Browning

Some umlats missing I'm afraid
Sean Peake
I didn't think our troops employed tanks there but I guess I was wrong.
ianw
"Wenn ich Kultur höre ... entsichere ich meinen Browning!" - complete with punctuation!

The line in a play of his is I think rather more interesting than the common version - when he hears the word culture, he releases the safety-catch on his Browning.

I think he probably would have shot the fatso on the war memorial Canadian or not. He was the Nazi Brecht apparently. Not a lot of people know that - I didn't until 2 minutes ago.
Siege Gunner
QUOTE (ianw @ Nov 2 2009, 08:37 PM) *
"Wenn ich Kultur höre ... entsichere ich meinen Browning!" - complete with punctuation!

The line in a play of his is I think rather more interesting than the common version - when he hears the word culture, he releases the safety-catch on his Browning.


Is the play Zuckmayer's "Des Teuffels General" ?
centurion
QUOTE (Siege Gunner @ Nov 2 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Is the play Zuckmayer's "Des Teuffels General" ?



No Johst's Schlageter - I'm waiting for the Mel Brookes version.
georgemckieIII
Sensible comment escapes me....I can never look at a poppy wreath again with that image now burned in my brain.....
Connor
I sent an e-mail to the CWGC about this and received a very prompt reply. They are aware of the incident, have spoken to the newspaper and inform me that Canadian authorities have been made aware of the incident. The photos were taken by Peter Verschuere from Kortemark. They were taken on July 21, 2009. The theme was apparently Love and Peace.....
Soren1915
QUOTE (Connor @ Nov 3 2009, 05:23 AM) *
They were taken on July 21, 2009. The theme was apparently Love and Peace.....

and Cakes laugh.gif
o j kirby
Hello!

Why don't we adopt the monumental Cassandra as the forum mascot? Every organisation needs a pin-up!

Cheers

Owain.
Connor
Poor Cassandra. I expect she was telling the photographer that this was a dumb idea, but as usual, no one would listen to her.....
Steven Broomfield
She could have been a re-enactor.

FANY?
steve morse
What type of crane was used to lift her on to the monument? rolleyes.gif
Connor
I actually feel some sympathy for the woman. She's a model hired to do yet another crap job for some crank of a photographer and now the photos are on the internet. And besides, who here on the forum hasn't ended up face down and naked on a war memorial in Belgium or France every once in a while? Umm, okay, bad example..never mind.

Ken Lees
QUOTE (Connor @ Nov 3 2009, 03:21 PM) *
And besides, who here on the forum hasn't ended up face down and naked on a war memorial in Belgium or France every once in a while? Umm, okay, bad example..never mind.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
PBI
QUOTE (Steven Broomfield @ Nov 3 2009, 03:00 PM) *
She could have been a re-enactor.

FANY?


From what i have seen of some of the Re reactors of the "Who ate all the Pies ?" Battalion She is positivley sylph like by comparison laugh.gif laugh.gif
Sean Peake
QUOTE (steve morse @ Nov 3 2009, 10:09 AM) *
What type of crane was used to lift her on to the monument? rolleyes.gif


This one
Ice tiger
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Andy
Dragon
I thought the original point was questioning whether this photography is an appropriate use of a memorial, rather than size fascism.
Soren1915
Probably a benefit cheat....... as well as an abuser of the memory of dead men
centurion
QUOTE (Dragon @ Nov 3 2009, 06:52 PM) *
, rather than size fascism.



I'm sure Mussolini would never have countenanced criticism of the larger figure!
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