Chris
Nov 1 2009, 08:05 PM
When trying to trace whether some German soldiers involved in a battle had died after being captured i found that the CWGC database only holds details in its database of the name and date of death of the German soldiers buried in CWGC cemteries. Yet on the gravestone when you visit the cemetery the details on the headstone's of German graves often mention the individuals unit and rank. From this point further details can then be gleaned from the Volksbund database and German casualty lists.
I am with the help of Ralph Whitehead and other kind forum members hoping to pull this information together so that a database will become available for us all to use that will give full details of Germans that are buried in CWGC cemeteries.
I am asking the kind help of any forum members who happen to visit CWGC cemeteries in France, Belgium or the UK, if they do have any spare time on their visit to jot down details on German headstones of name, date of death and most importantly unit and rank if available. If they can then add these deatils onto this thread (or if mods desire please move to a more suitable area), then i can add them into the excel sheets. Obviously please do not go out of your way but if you can forward any information from headstones it would be much appreciated.
I will keep the thread updated with cemeteries that have been completed.
Any help appreciated
Cheers
Chris
SPOF
Nov 1 2009, 11:01 PM
Chris
A few to get you going
Rue Des Berceaux
Karl Schulz
6/RJ R 84
9-4-18
Walter Meyer
8/RJ R84
12-4-18
St Vaast Post
Bruno Nitschke
8 /RJ R205
10-4-18
Wartmann
1-7-18
Rudolf Lehnert
JN??? T R25
??-??-18
Willy Krohm
1 MGK/RJ R86
13-4-18
Hieronymus Geske
2 MGK/JR R46
26-4-18
Heinrich Hollje
4/JR R117
26-4-18
Johann Huber
1RJ R205
10-4-18
Franz Tulkowske
MW KP 119
No date
Alfred Baumbach
4/LDW Fuss AR 66
30-4-18
Johann Niewolak
6/Fuss AR 27
2-5-18
Franz Kaminski
MK5 Fuss AR 27
2-5-18
Christian Krekel
MK5 Fuss AR 27
2-5-18
August Erding
MK5 Fuss AR 27
2-5-18
Max Ruhl
4/Pion 3TM
9-7-19
Ernst Scheffler
4/JR R46
6-5-18
Stanislaus Stanislawski
1JR 46
3-5-18
Robert Tauchert
2JR 46
3-5-18
Alfred Renne?
1JR 46
2-5-18
Karl Grenda
1JR 46
30-4-18
Ernst Otto
1JR 46
30-10-18
Edwin Stebner
4JR 46
30-4-18
Fritz Schafer
2JR 46
1-5-18
Emil Haupt
2JR 46
1-5-18
Hermann Sedenfaden
2JR 46
4(?)-5-18
Fritz Aust
2JR 46
?-5-18
Paul Leonhardt
6JR R205
22-4-18
Paul Nitschke
6JR R205
26-4-18
Momme Paulsen
8 RJ R86
?-4-18
Oskar Boll
Nachr-KP/JR 469
17-4-18
Kurt Haupts ?
8JR R2?5
21-4-18
Fritz Kabitzky
8/RFA R44
?-4-18
Walter Jaap
1Pion (?) R208
14-4-18
Franz Buche
R?ON ?R88
15-4-18
Hermann Fick
8RJ R205
15-4-18
Kaspar Schmid
8RJ E3
16-4-18
William Stahl
6JR R471
17-4-18
Artur Funk
4JR 466
15-4-18
Bruno Meis(?)er
4JR 471
17-4-18
Franz Van Den Herz
2MGK/RJ R208
16-4-18
Albert faber
9/JR 466
21-4-18
Johann Urbiks
4/RFA R44
21-4-18
Otto Kretz
MWK/JR 470
20-4-18
Karl Kraft
3 MGK/JR457
20-4-18
Ernest Wedemann
3/JR 467
19-4-18
Johann Siewek
Pion KP 370
19-4-18
Peter Kummel
8/JR 466
19-4-18
Emil Knapp
4/JR 469
18-4-18
Emil Ekerlin
Nachr KP/JR 470
18-4-18
Wilhelm Blatz
11/JR 469
18-4-18
Andreas Zink
1MGK/JR 470
18-4-18
Christian Bauerle
10/JR 469
18-4-18
Johann Luhrs
10/RJ R 86
18-4-18
Anton Pfaender
2 MGK/Bayer RJR1
18-4-18
Ignatz Esseberg (??_
3 MGK/S(?)R 471
17-4-18
Franz Kimmritz
3 MGK/RJR 206
16-4-18
Aug Nortmann
6JR471
17-4-18
Mulfort
27-7-16
Le Touret
Wilhelm Witt
7/JR 172
Glen
Peter Woodger
Nov 2 2009, 02:31 PM
Chris
The 7 in Serre 2 are
2 Unknown Soldat
1 Unknown Krieger
Karl Angel MGK/LEHR-J-R 14/07/1916 plus 1 Unknown Krieger
1 Unknown Krieger
1 Unknown Krieger
Peter
Chris
Nov 2 2009, 08:14 PM
Hi Glen and Peter
Many thanks for the information. A nice start to the project.
Thank you
Chris
roel22
Nov 3 2009, 08:16 AM
Kemmel no. 1 French Cemetery (shared grave):
Emil Schaefer
RIR 238
14-05-1918
Unteroffizier
Florus Lorenz
27-05-1918
IR 1??
Roel
apanderson
Nov 3 2009, 02:03 PM
Chris,
When you say 'CWGC' cemeteries - does that mean you're not interested in stones from Municipal Cemeteries. (I'm talking about Central Scotland where I know of one German stone at least).
Anne
SPOF
Nov 3 2009, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (apanderson @ Nov 3 2009, 02:03 PM)

Chris,
When you say 'CWGC' cemeteries - does that mean you're not interested in stones from Municipal Cemeteries. (I'm talking about Central Scotland where I know of one German stone at least).
Anne
Anne
Speaking from a personal point of view and nothing to do with Chris' team, I'd rather have the information and find out it is already covered than not have it and miss something possibly important so I'd post it. As I said though, it is for Chris and Team to decide.
Chris, let me know if you want photographs of the men I listed.
Also, where would I find casualty lists covering the 1st and 8th Bavarian Reserve Divisions for 9-11 April 1918?
Glen
Hitchhiker
Nov 3 2009, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (Chris @ Nov 1 2009, 08:05 PM)

When trying to trace whether some German soldiers involved in a battle had died after being captured i found that the CWGC database only holds details in its database of the name and date of death of the German soldiers buried in CWGC cemteries. Yet on the gravestone when you visit the cemetery the details on the headstone's of German graves often mention the individuals unit and rank. From this point further details can then be gleaned from the Volksbund database and German casualty lists.
I am with the help of Ralph Whitehead and other kind forum members hoping to pull this information together so that a database will become available for us all to use that will give full details of Germans that are buried in CWGC cemeteries.
I am asking the kind help of any forum members who happen to visit CWGC cemeteries in France, Belgium or the UK, if they do have any spare time on their visit to jot down details on German headstones of name, date of death and most importantly unit and rank if available. If they can then add these deatils onto this thread (or if mods desire please move to a more suitable area), then i can add them into the excel sheets. Obviously please do not go out of your way but if you can forward any information from headstones it would be much appreciated.
I will keep the thread updated with cemeteries that have been completed.
Any help appreciated
Cheers
Chris
Hitchhiker
Nov 3 2009, 09:14 PM
hi
have you tried asking the War Grave Photographic project if they can assist in any way? I am sure that the project will be able to say if the information you seek has been collected yet /
they are photographing the graves as well
sorry if already know this information , new to forum so still bumbling around in the dark at present .
hope you find the info you need soon
hitchiker
Ponte Fractus
Nov 3 2009, 09:51 PM
Hello Chris,
here's one at Dernancourt Communal Cemetery Extension I happen to have a photo of:
Hermann Hess
1-/J-R-114
+26-03-18
hope it helps,
Steve.
Chris
Nov 3 2009, 10:00 PM
Hitchhiker
Thanks for the suggestion. I will get in touch with them as although they do not list the unit details on the online search they have photographed (as you say) the gravestones and on many of them the unit details will be useful.
Glen
Appreciate the offer of the photos but the info you posted earlier should be fine unless we come up against a ? and want to double check. Thanks. Regarding the casualty lists i will check with someone who knows far more than me and get back to you.
Anne
Yes please forward any details you have so as Glen points out see all available info.
Thnaks to you all
Chris
apanderson
Nov 4 2009, 07:43 AM
Here's the (lack of) details for 2 men listed on the same stone in Glasgow Western Necropolis:
WILLY FELD, 25.8.1917
ERICH JAGUSCH, 28.8.1917
According to the CWGC database, there are 2 German Graves within the cemetery, but I never found another stone, so presumably it's one grave, shared by these two men.
Photo of stone here: Scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=4015&mforum=scottishwargraves#4015
(Page 49)
Anne
fritz
Nov 4 2009, 07:09 PM
This two graves are in Vlamertinghe Military Cemetery.
Leutnant Willy Sasse and Musketier Friedrich Pieper died in the same action, when they had a raid against British lines near Verlorenhoek (Ypres). In the same cemetery as the British soldiers who were killed by their party.
Fritz
fritz
Nov 4 2009, 07:11 PM
The grave of Friedrich Pieper
Cnock
Nov 4 2009, 07:47 PM
Hi
Bard Cottage Cemetery -Boezinge
Sanitäts Unteroffizier Aug. Holzer 4/RIR 239, +3/4/1916
Gefreiter Kornelius GATZ, 4/RIR 239 , +3/4/1916
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 4 2009, 08:03 PM
Poperinge - Old Military Cemetery
Rud Naumann, +27/1/1915
Joh. Wermes,
from Resrve Jäger Bataillon 25
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 4 2009, 08:07 PM
Poperinge - New Military Cemetery
leutnant der Reserve Cäsar OHSE, +20/5/1918
F.A.R. 241
Cnock
Reningelst - New Militay Cemetery
Unteroffizier Maxim KLATT, +11/8/1917
RIR 213
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 4 2009, 08:15 PM
Vlamertinge New Military Cemetery
E. BALLHORN, +18/7/1917
IR 449
Chester Farm Cemetery -Zillebeke
Pionier Hugo Veit, +13/12/1916
Pionier Mineur Kompagnie 324
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 4 2009, 08:44 PM
Ploegsteert - Berks Cemetery
Sergeant Georg FUCHS, +4/1/1917
5th Bavarian IR
Ploegsteert - Prowse Point Cem
Vizefeldwebel Wilhelm Klemmer, +10/4/1918
IR 70
Cnock
Nov 4 2009, 08:50 PM
Ieper - Wieltje Farm Cem
Unteroffizier O. HOFMEISTER, +22/9/1917
RIR 91
Wieltje - Oxford Road Cem
Otto Heinze, +4/10/1917
IR92
Franz BERLIN, 5/10/1917
IR92
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 4 2009, 08:56 PM
Ploegsteert - London Rifle Brigade Cem
Edm. SIEGMANN, +7/5/1918
IR 113
Willy GORSKI, +9/5/1918
FAR 31
Feldwebel Josef SCHLOSSER, +14/4/1918
IR 363
Fähnrich Willi JACOB, 6/5/1918
IR 72
Motor Car Corner Cem
Vizefeldwebel O. GAERTNER, +26/6/1918
IR 56
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 5 2009, 07:40 PM
Solferino Farm Cem - Brielen
Leutnant Karl SCHULZ, +28/11917
FSA Bataillon 407
Jos. MÜLLER, +27/10/1917
IR 466
Regards,
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 5 2009, 07:48 PM
Torreken Farm Cem - Wijtschate
IR 393, +10/4/1918 :
Karl DATOW
B. GOLDMANN
Andr. KELLNER
M. GRUNOW
Ernst FELDHEIM
Max SCHÖPEL, Grenadier RGt 9, +26/4/1918
Gustav RÜTH, Lehr Inf. Rgt, +1/5/1918
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 5 2009, 08:40 PM
Poperinge - Gwalia Cemetery
Mart. Lindner , Heinrich HAIN : Bavarian 7th Infantry Rgt
Erich TIETZE : IR 455
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 5 2009, 08:44 PM
Voormezele Enclosures 1& 2 Military Cemetery
Vizefeldwebel Georg PRÜFER, +15/8/1917
IR 62
IR 457 :
Vizefeldwebel A. BLANKENAGEL
Karl KAISER
Alfred HENKEL
Voormezele Ridgewood Cem
Willy GIERKE, +16/7/1916
RIR 214
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 05:27 PM
Dranouter Military Cemetery
Hans HELD, +7/6/1917
Bavarian 23th Infant Rgt
Locre Hospice Cemetery
Offizier Stellvertreter Karl Koch,
Bavarian 5th Infantry Rgt
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 05:34 PM
Locre Nr.10 Cemetery - Loker
Karl UTECHT, +21/8/1918
RIR 10
Otto MOSE
Sturmbataillon 4, +24/8/1918
Unteroffizier Paul LEMSCH, +21/8/1918
RIR 10,
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 05:45 PM
Pond Farm Cemetery - Wulvergem
IR 448 en IR 449 (233rd Div)
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 05:49 PM
Kandahar Farm Cem - Nieuwkerke
IR 102 (32 Div)
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 06:01 PM
Westouter - Churchyard Cemetery
Otto MÜNKEL
RIR 231 (50 Res Div)
Robert Glass
IR 44
Unteroffizier Joh. HEILMEYER
Bavarian 25 IR ( 6 Bav Div)
Regards,
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 06:06 PM
Nieuwkerke - Westhof Farm Cem
Bavarian 18th IR
Ludwig MEHLING
Bavarian 17th IR
Unteroffizier Joh. BRAUN
Jacob ELSESSER
C. RESCH
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 06:12 PM
INGOYGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY
IR 392, +25/10/1918
Martin RICHTER
M. GROSSMANN
K. SCHNEIDER
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 06:18 PM
HEESTERT MILITARY CEMETERY
R. DURTECHER, MG SECT 72
Paul SCHMIDT, IR 22
Gust GEVANER, IR 51
Leutnant Theod EYFF, RIR 10
Viktor KUBINA, RIR 10
Ludw KORUS, IR 165
Cnock
Ludw KORUS, IR 156
Chris
Nov 6 2009, 06:22 PM
Cnock
Thank you very much for all the posts you have put on. Tremendous stuff for which i am very grateful. It is all being collated together.
Cheers
Chris
Cnock
Nov 6 2009, 07:13 PM
Chris,
when You have questions, don't hesitate to ask
Regards,
Cnock
fritz
Nov 6 2009, 09:08 PM
Warlincourt-Halte British Military Cemetery
Musketier Ernst Meyer
2. Kompanie IR 163
wounded near Neuville-Vitasse and died in English field-hospital 13.4.1917
Regards
Fritz
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 09:58 AM
Polygoon Wood Cem - Zonnebeke
Hans BOGNER, Bavarian 27 IR
+28/9/1918
Ploegsteert - Ration Farm Cem
Unteroffizier Bern. HEDRICH, IR 450
+24/4/1918
Wulvergem St. Quentin Cabaret Mil Cel
G. FISCHBACHER, Bavarian 17th I.R.
+7/6/1917
Cnock
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 10:08 AM
Lancashire Cemetery - Ploegsteert
Lancashire Cem - Ploegsteert
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 11:21 AM
Dikkebus - Huts Cemetery
Cnock
HUTS CEM
Ice tiger
Nov 7 2009, 01:32 PM
Chris
Will be at Mendinghem Military Cemetery next week & will record those for you
Andy
edit:..... unless Cnock beats me to it
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 02:16 PM
Proven - Dozinghem British Cemetery
Cnock
Dozinghem
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 02:20 PM
Dozinghem British Cem - Proven
Dozinghem
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 02:39 PM
Haringe - Bandaghem British Cem
Cnock
Bandaghem
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 02:47 PM
Bandaghem British Cem - Proven
Bandaghem
Bandaghem
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 02:51 PM
Bandaghem
Bandaghem
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 03:04 PM
Brandhoek New Military Cem
Brandhoek New Mil Cem
Cnock
Nov 7 2009, 03:08 PM
Brandhoek New Mil Cem
Cnock
Brandhoek New Mil Cem
fritz
Nov 8 2009, 07:47 PM
Great collection Cnock. Here another victim.
Nachname: Schaper
Vorname: Erich
Dienstgrad: Leutnant der Reserve R.I.R. 7
Geburtsdatum:
Geburtsort:
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 24.09.1917
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Zonnebeke
Erich Schaper ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Ypern "Potyze Chateau Lawn" (Belgien) .
Endgrablage: Reihe C Grab 29
Chris
Nov 8 2009, 09:03 PM
Continued thanks to everyone for the information and offers to photograph. It is much appreciated.
Cheers
Chris
Cnock
Nov 10 2009, 05:55 PM
Nieppe - Pont d'Achelles Mil Cem
Max WITT - 7th vompany IR 358
Rudolf Weidlich, 5th Company RIR 11
Cnock
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