Terry Denham
Sep 12 2004, 06:01 PM
The Forum has seen several posts announcing that a previously non-commemorated casualty has been accepted by MoD/CWGC for war grave recognition after eighty years or so - usually through the work of researchers or relatives.
Recently, just such a group of researchers has achieved an outstanding success in getting twenty-one naval casualties added to CWGC's database in one go. This was the result of dedicated research and determination. They are remaining anonymous but I think their efforts are worthy of praise on this Forum.
Most of the men died after discharge through service related illness or wounds - usually the hardest category to get accepted due to the level of proof required. There is also a further naval group under consideration by MoD.
For anyone who has a possible 'non-com' in their records, this has to be an encouragement to press forward with putting a case to MoD/CWGC.
The men listed below now have their recognition after so long out in the cold and twenty of their names will appear on the United Kingdom 1914-1918 Memorial as their grave locations are unknown as yet. The last in the list is buried in West Coker (St Martin) Churchyard, Somerset, UK.
ROYAL MARINES
Pte Norman Charles CLATWORTHY Died 21.01.17
Spr Cornelius Henry CURRELL Died 28.03.21
Pte Frederick Montague DEAN Died 01.11.19
Spr Harold FOX Died 26.11.17
Saddler Charles Walter HALL Died 11.05.18
Spr James William HART Died 21.12.17
Pte Thomas Winder HAYDOCK Died 16.03.18
Pte Ralph SIMPSON Died 24.03.18
L/Cpl William WARREN Died 02.03.16
ROYAL MARINE LIGHT INFANTRY
Pte Edwin Bedford AMBLER Died 31.03.17
Pte Theophilus BURTON Died 25.02.18
Cpl Joseph BUSH Died 13.03.19
Sgt John William COOK 02.06.19
QMS Herbert Collis FINCHAM Died 17.12.20
Pte Albert Henry GILFOY Died 11.07.19
Sgt William LAW Died 29.12.20
Pte George James NELSON Died 24.09.20
Pte Thomas RAMSDALE Died 24.09.20
L/Cpl Arnold SMITH Died 11.01.19
L/Cpl William John WALKER Died 05.06.17
Pte Lot HAYWARD Died 18.11.17
May they rest in peace.
Andrew Hesketh
Sep 12 2004, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Terry Denham @ Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:01:39 +0000)
May they rest in peace.
Here, here.
Andrew Hesketh
Sep 12 2004, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (Terry Denham @ Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:01:39 +0000)
Recently, just such a group of researchers has achieved an outstanding success in getting twenty-one naval casualties added to CWGC's database in one go. This was the result of dedicated research and determination. They are remaining anonymous but I think their efforts are worthy of praise on this Forum.
Whoever they are, they've done a wonderful job.
Pete Wood
Sep 12 2004, 07:30 PM
'They' may wish to remain anonymous, but there are many of us (I'm sure) that can work out who is behind this.
Well done, guys!!
jimmyjames
Sep 12 2004, 10:14 PM
"They" did'nt forget these forgotten heroes.
Jimmy
Glosters
Sep 13 2004, 06:24 AM
Last Thursday I heard another good piece of news. A medal collector researching a 1914 star discovered that this man was one of the first two Glosters killed in the First World War, 26th August 1914. Both had no known graves. However, while looking for a grave at Landrecies, where the Glosters fought their first action of the war, someone noticed two graves at the back of a small cemetery. 'Unknown private of the Gloucester Regiment, killed August 1914' and 'Unknown L/Cpl. of the Gloucester Regiment, killed August 1914'. It was clear from all the evidence (War Diary, Battalion history etc) that these could only be L/Cpl. C.H. Hackling and Pte. G.F. Cole. Putting all the evidence together he wrote to the CWGC and they have accepted his evidence and so, 90 years after their deaths, L/Cpl. Hackling and Pte Cole now will have identified graves and are no longer missing.
Steve
Derek Robertson
Sep 13 2004, 09:48 AM
Well done to all concerned.
Will O'Brien
Sep 13 2004, 10:41 PM
Raising a glass to to all those involved & to those now properly remembered.
Andrew Hesketh
Sep 14 2004, 10:31 PM
Good news, Steve.
john w.
Sep 15 2004, 02:43 PM
Incredible... great news, takes time and patience
John
hmsk212
Sep 15 2004, 03:38 PM
Excellent news, it just goes to show that 90 years later these men are not forgotten and rightly so.
Steve
Hill_60
Sep 15 2004, 04:26 PM
Outstanding work and an inspiration to all of us, well done one and all!
chrisharley9
Aug 11 2009, 01:53 PM
Name: GILFOY, ALBERT HENRY
Initials: A H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry
Secondary Unit Text: Late of 2nd R.M. Bn. R.N. Div.
Date of Death: 11/07/1919
Service No: PO/16706
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL
Grave Found
Southampton Old Cemetery Section Q130 Grave 36
chrisharley9
Aug 11 2009, 02:02 PM
Name: LAW, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Acting)
Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry
Secondary Unit Text: Late of Deal Bn. R.N. Div.
Date of Death: 29/12/1920
Service No: PO/13196
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel.
Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL
grave found
Gosport Ann's Hill Cemetery Plot 120 space 25
Name: RAMSDALE, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry
Secondary Unit Text: Late of 2nd R.M. Bn. R.N. Div.
Date of Death: 28/12/1916
Service No: PLY/832(S)
N.B.: Recent research has shown that Private Ramsdale is buried here.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: CC. Con. 446
Cemetery: MANCHESTER (GORTON) CEMETERY
John Hartley
Aug 11 2009, 02:37 PM
Well done, Chris. Your hard graft seems to be paying off.
John
chrisharley9
Aug 11 2009, 02:49 PM
John
more to come - I have sent about 50 emails so far this week
Chris
chrisharley9
Sep 8 2009, 08:39 PM
QMS Herbert Collis FINCHAM Died 17.12.20
Grave found by Izzy
Liverpool Kirkdale Cemetery CofE Sect 8 grave 183
shred
Sep 8 2009, 10:17 PM
Amazing dedication.
Wepp done to those involved.
Garry
chrisharley9
Sep 10 2009, 08:53 PM
L/Cpl William John WALKER Died 05.06.17
Grave found by Izzy
"West Derby Cemetery Liverpool section 3 No 2259
"
chrisharley9
Oct 26 2009, 05:06 PM
Spr Cornelius Henry CURRELL Died 28.03.21
Grave found
Willesden New Cemetery grave 906 section Q
Ian Murphy
Oct 26 2009, 05:15 PM
I have just seen this thread for the first time, amazing job done.
Congratulations to the anonymous team of researchers and to Terry Denham, Chris "Gravefinder General" Harley and their friends in locating the graves.
Not Forgotten
Best regards,
Ian.
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