Bob,

MALTA (CAPUCCINI) NAVAL CEMETERY

Only one match found, which may be a possible. Charles and William may be twins.

PLY/7942 Pte Charles Edward SAXTON 2nd RM Bn. RMLI 30/12/1915
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=116631
24803 Pte James William SAXTON 1st Royal Berks 14/11/1916
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=811392
16367 Pte William Harold SAXTON 2nd Gloucestershire 10/05/1915
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=921464
Sons of George and Edith Saxton, of Rudgeway, Bristol

Geoff,
Thank you. I have checked Blumberg's "Britains Sea Soldiers', & I feel sure Saxton is a Gallipoli casualty,
Bob

Bob,

A bit more luck on Gibralta, North Front.

NOTE: the CWGC entry details for Pte John Wood, the last in the list, is garbled.


GIBRALTAR (NORTH FRONT) CEMETERY

Pte Herbert DEAN 1st Garrison Bn Cheshire Regiment 05/11/1915
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=473081
Pte John Hugo DEAN 1st Labour Bn King's (Liverpool) 23/11/17
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...asualty=2747673
Sons of John and Edith Ann Dean, of Preston Brook, Cheshire

Pte Stewart HUGHES 5th Argyll and Sutherland 14/09/1915
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=473138
Pioneer George HUGHES 343rd Railway Coy. RE 05/12/1917
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=144968
Sons of Stewart Hughes, of Londonderry

Pte W H JINKS 7th North Staffs 10/01/1916
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=473147
Pte Aaron JINKS 9th North Staffs 13/05/1917
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=401978
Sons of Emily Jinks, of Stoke-on-Trent

Able Seaman Robert Watt MITCHELL Howe Bn RNVR 12/09/1915
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=473197
Pte A MITCHELL 2nd Royal Scots 24/04/1917
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...?casualty=91472
Sons of Alexander and Charlotte Mitchell, of Hawkhill, Dundee

Pte P J SELBY 8th Northumberland Fusiliers 03/10/1915
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=473247
Cpt Beauchamp Henry SELBY 1st Northumberland Fusiliers 20/09/1914
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=723996
Sons of Beauchamp Prideaux Selby, of Pawston, Northumberland


Possible brothers, but perhaps too late?

Deck Hand George WOOD HM Trawler 'ARCTURUS' RNR 09/03/1916
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=473313
Pte John WOOD 5th Gordon Highlanders 13/11/1916
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=613430
?? Sons of John Wood, of Portlethen Village Kincardineshire ??

Geoff,
Thank you. None of these are listed in SDGW as 'Gallipoli' casualties, but I believe Hughes, Selby, Jinks & Mitchell were, as their units were all on Gallipoli before & after their dates of death. I think, however, that the Wood brother is 'too late,'
Bob

I am researching the WW1 servicemen who appear on the War Memorial in Stubbington, Hampshire. There are 3 brothers who appear there, one of whom was killed at Gallipoli - details as follows:

2nd Lt William Augustine Harper Lowry, Indian Army Reserve of Officers, 14th king George's Own Ferozepore Sikhs. died aged 25 on 04/06/1915. Helles Memorial (He is described as of Indian nationality on the CWG site)

Lt.Col. Auriol Ernest Eric Lowry DSO, MC, Croix de Guerre avec Palme, 2nd Bn., West yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Own), died aged 25 on 23/09/1918. La Targette British Cemetery, Neuville - St. Vaast

Captain Cyril John Patrick Lowry, "C" Coy. 2nd Bn., West yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Own) died aged 20 on 25/03/1918. Pozieres Memorial.


Hope this may be of interest - I am new to the site, just found it, so am looking forward to gathering more info soon.

I can add three brothers one killed in Gallipoli

Name: LILLIMAN, JOSEPH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Date of Death: 09/08/1915
Service No: 12833
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 150 to 152.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Name: LILLIMAN, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Company Serjeant Major
Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
Unit Text: 16th Bn.
Date of Death: 10/10/1916
Service No: 25502
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 10 C 10 D and 11 A.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

Name: LILLIMAN
Initials: W H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 05/10/1915
Service No: 22248
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: DI. 6.
Cemetery: POTIJZE BURIAL GROUND CEMETERY


Hope this helps.

How many now by the way??

Gidge,
Welcome to the Forum & thank you for your input. I do have the Lowry brothers, but it was very kind of you to ask.
Anthony,
These are new to me, thank you very much.
At present the numbers stand at 190 both killed on Gallipoli, 931 killed with at leat one killed on Gallipoli or as a result of it - staggering, isn't it!
Bob

Bob,

No problem. That is an impressive figure, if i come across anymore i will let you know.

If anyone has any photos or information on the Henderson-Hamilton brothers who served in Gallipoli and Loos resepectively I would very much like to hear from you.

bobpike

Don't know if you have any of these and I am not sure if they are all brothers, but two of my great uncles were also in this regiment 5th Battalion Suffolk Regiment T.A. they both survived if you want their names let me know.

1652 Aldous, J. F. Pte. died of wounds 23/08/1915 Gallipoli
1997 Aldous, M. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
240372 Bamard, S. W. L/Cpl. killed in action 02/11/1917 Palestine
1241 Barnard, C. H. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2358 Bloomfield, C. Pte. died of wounds 05/09/1915 Gallipoli
2208 Bloomfield, F. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2400 Bloomfield, L. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2236 Clarke, F. T. L/Cpl. died 19/03/1916 Egypt
1953 Clarke, H. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2417 Clarke, S. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
241097 Crick, C. H. Pte. killed in action 15/12/1917 Palestine
2698 Crick, F. Pte’ killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
1850 Day, E. Pte died of wounds 14/08/1915 Gallipoli
178 Day, G. E. Sergt. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
240005 Farrant, A. R. Sergt. died 07/03/1919 Home
2203 Farrant, H. Pte. killed in action 25/08/1915 Gallipoli
9751 Frost, S. A. Pte. died 30/12/1917 At Sea
240304 Frost, T. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
1499 Green, J. E. V. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2426 Green, W. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2313 Griggs, H. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2434 Griggs, W. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2202 Hume, P. Pte. died of wounds 14/09/1915 Gallipoli
1838 Hume, W. Pte. killed in action 03/11/1915 Gallipoli
984 Hunt, B. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
112 Hunt, W.S. C.-S.-M. killed in action 20/09/1915 Gallipoli
240425 Keeble, F. Pte. killed in action 02/11/1917 Palestine
2416 Keeble, H. J. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
240792 Lambert, A. E. Pte. killed in action 15/12/1917 Palestine
1275 Lambert, A. L/Cpl. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
1834 Lambert, R. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
240602 Martin, A. Pte. died of wounds 28/11/1917 Egypt
9502 Martin, B. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
1346 Martin, H. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
2995 Middleditch, E. H. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
241209 Middleditch, F. C. Pte. died 18/08/1919 Home
1484 Nunn, H. Pte. died of wounds 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
240752 Nunn, S. Pte. killed in action 19/09/1918 Palestine
241326 Smith, F. F. Sergt. killed in action 16/12/1917 Palestine
2083 Smith, F. W. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
240596 Smith, G. W. L/Cpl. killed in action 02/11/1917 Palestine
241330 Smith, H. W. Pte. killed in action 19/04/1917 Palestine.
3604 Smith, H. L/Cpl. died 15/09/1916 Egypt
1923 Smith, S. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
240544 Smith, S. M. L/Cpl. killed in action 02/11/1917 Palestine.
240675 Smith, S. R. Pte. killed in action 27/11/1917 Palestine
4139 Smith, W. S. Pte. died 01/05/1916 Home
240178 Smith, W. Pte. killed in action 02/11/1917 Palestine
1454 Smith, W. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
242577 Stiff, J. Pte. killed in action 15/12/1917 Palestine
2326 Stiff, G. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli.
1250 Ward, C. B. L/Cpl. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli
1271 Ward, E. Pte. killed in action 12/08/1915 Gallipoli


joatmon

Joatmon,
Thank you for the huge list. I'll first check with those I already have, then we need to check family details for a link.
I'll let you know how I get on,
Bob

Lynda,
I've e-mailed you privately,
Bob

Major Frank Statham and Corporal Clive Statham

I came across this reference in course of some research which forum members may be interested in:

“BROTHERS DIE TOGETHER

KILLED BY ONE SHELL

There appears to be little doubt that Major Frank Statham and Corporal Clive Statham of Dunedin, were killed in action. Writing from the trenches to Mr C H Statham, Lieutenant L G Wilson, adjutant of the Otago Battalion, 10th North Otago Regiment, to which both Mr Statham’s sons were attached, says: “The battalion was almost decimated, and the only information we could get was one man’s statement that he had seen the major wounded and in an unconscious state early in the afternoon. After that he had not seen him. Now, however, three men who were wounded state that the major and Clive were standing together and were killed by the explosion of one shell, which landed very close to them. Beyond that I regret that I have been unable to gain any more details. It has been a terrible business and a loss that will never be fully realised. The major, as an officer among officers, was placed on the highest pedestal of respect and admiration, by the men was loved, and was a born leader. In every operation in which our battalion was engaged it was the major and his company who led the offensive.”

Source: Auckland Weekly News November 4, 1915 page 21


Nominal roll details:

Surname STATHAM
Given Name Frank Hadfield
Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1
Regimental Number 8/977a
Rank Major
Body or Draft Main Body
Unit or Regiment Otago Infantry Batln
Marital Status M
Last NZ Address Otago
Next of Kin Title Mrs Mary P
Next of Kin Surname STATHAM
Next of Kin Relationship Wife
Next of Kin Address C/- C H Statham 26 Dowling St Dunedin


Surname STATHAM
Given Name Clive Heathcote Falk
Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1
Regimental Number 8/801
Rank Corporal
Body or Draft Main Body
Unit or Regiment Otago Infantry Batln
Marital Status S
Last NZ Address Te Rua Takapau
Next of Kin Title Charles H
Next of Kin Surname STATHAM
Next of Kin Relationship Father
Next of Kin Address Mornington Dunedin


Charles Bean in his book the Story of Anzac Vol 2 (page 580 / 692) also refers to these two brothers being killed on Chunuk Bair on 9 August 1915. Bean makes the following statement:

“About 5 am, while the Turkish attack upon them was still at its height, three high explosive howitzer shells, coming from the right rear, burst among them, one exploding in the front trench, and killing the gallant Major Statham (accountant; of St Leonard’s Otago NZ; b Dunedin NZ 31 Dec 1879) together with his brother beside him, (sheep farmer; of Takapau, Hawkes Bay NZ; b Dunedin, NZ, 23 Sept 1892) as well as Sergeant-Major Porteous (MID Member of NZ Permanent Forces, of Oamaru and Dunedin NZ; b Dunedin 23 July 1875) and six of seven men. The shells almost certainly came from one of the howitzer batteries inside the old Anzac lines.”

Richard Stowers also refers to the brothers in his 2005 book Bloody Gallipoli The New Zealanders’ Story – pages 188 / 362. Stowers refers to Colonel Meldrum (Wellington Mounted Rifles) who was there at the time as being “convinced that Statham was killed by a Royal Navy shell.” I don’t think anyone will know for certain.

Anyone looking for photos of the two brothers can find them in The Auckland Weekly News Nov 4, 1915 page 30- centre of the page.

Zack

Zack,
Thank you. I was aware of these brothers, but their tale is so tragic it bears te-telling. Thank you for taking the trouble to do so,
Bob

No problem Bob because you are correct it is a tragic tale - like so many others! Just imagine their families reaction

Zack

My Grandfather, Alexander Shapcott, died that very same month on that very same Turkish peninsula. His name is on the Hellas War Memorial, a 30m-high obelisk that can still be seen by ships passing through the Dardanelles. He was a Private in his 20s. Just eight weeks before he'd lost his brother William, a drummer boy and my Uncle - yet another one of 20,000 soldiers who died in that notorious and savage campaign. Both served in the East Lancashire Regiment.

David,

The details below are from the CWGC web site

Name: SHAPCOTT, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: East Lancashire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Date of Death: 07/08/1915
Service No: 2545
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 113 to 117.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Name: SHAPCOTT, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: East Lancashire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 05/06/1915
Service No: 2382
Additional information: Son of Henry and Mary Ann Shapcott, of 16, Harley St., Burnley.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 113 to 117.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL


welcome to the G W F
Michael

David & Michael,
Thank you both very much. To my surprise ( only in the fact that the names keep coming in) these two lads are new to me. But another dreadful story, isn't it. How parents coped? Or didn't, there seem to be a lot of casualties where the family details for one brother differ from the other(s) in the fact that the word 'late' appears by one of the parents, usually after the first one's death,
Bob

Hi Bob,

Have you got these brothers amongst your list.

Name: AHERN, JOSEPH
Initials: J
Nationality: New Zealand
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Wellington Regiment, N.Z.E.F.
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 31/08/1918
Service No: 23/1924
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. L. 6.
Cemetery: BANCOURT BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: AHERN, JOHN PATRICK
Initials: J P
Nationality: New Zealand
Rank: Trooper
Regiment/Service: Otago Mounted Rifles, N.Z.E.F.
Date of Death: between 06/08/1915 and 07/08/1915
Service No: 9/785A
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Edward Ahern, of Convent Rd., Otaki.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 7.
Memorial: CHUNUK BAIR (NEW ZEALAND) MEMORIAL

Cheers, Diane

Diane,
Many thanks. Initially I thought I already had them, but despite it being a relatively unusual surname, I hadn't! These are the others,

Ahern Pte. Rodney 1RDub Fus 8.8.15 – Helles Mem 190-6 and Pte. Richard 2Leinst 24.11.17 – Tincourt New BC 2F12.

Bob

Hi Bob,

It amazes me how your list keeps growing.

Cheers, Diane

Diane,
It amazes and rather shocks me. Hopefully it is slowing down and a sort of end is in sight, then it will appear in 'The Gallipolian,' but will also be available to anyone who'd like a copy - watch this space!
Bob

Thankyou Micheal

Hi Bob,

I'm trying to help a work colleague who is trying to trace his relatives. His aunt told him that four of her brothers were killed. Their surname is Reilly or Riley. I have managed to identify only one;
Edward Riley Pvt 10432 6th Batt. South Lancashire Regiment. Edward was killed on 10/8/1915 at Gallipoli and is commemorated on the Helles memorial. Son of Patrick, 20 Union Street, St Helens.
His other brothers were John, Joseph and Lawrence Reilly/Riley. The family were all from St. Helens area.
Many of the posts ask how the parents and other family members coped. In this instance it was never spoken about. According to my colleague, the only sign anything had happened was that every Armistice Day, his grandmother would sit at home and weep. My eyes cant help leaking as I think of that poor woman whose only defense to the unbearable grief of losing four sons was to try and blot it out until 11 November every year. If you or any of the other Pals know anything that would help I would love to tell my colleague to save them from being forgotten completely. I cant find anything conclusive on SDGW or CWGC but could that be because the family didnt return the finalistion forms? Grief is a terrible thing.

Keith

Keith,
Many thanks for posting this, it is indeed tragic, but not unique, sadly. Annoyingly I have no record of these, but I would very much like to add them to my database. Browsing SDGW & CWGC, I suspect that Gnr. Lawrence (5352) is a good bet, but there is no concrete proof. As to John & Joseph, putting in St. Helens on the SDGW brings up one possibility for Joseph (12591 South Lancs) but there are family details on CWGC which dismiss him completely. There are two Johns, but there are no family details for either!
May I suggest you post your query elsewhere on the Forum and pick the brains of the many experts here, but PLEASE keep me informed,
Bob

Can anyone help, please, identify the ‘missing brother’?

Murray Pte. J McL 5A & S 13.7.15– Lancashire Landing Cem and Pte. N 1/5A & S 12.7.15 – Helles Mem 183-184 (There is a third unidentified brother who also died).

Barlow Cpl. G 6Manch 4.6.15 – Helles Mem 158-170 and Cpl. J E 20RF 18.4.17 – Warlincourt Halte BC 8J4 (There is a third brother, Andrew, who I have been unable to identify).

These brothers we found this evening whilst working on another thread.

Name: DUNN, ALLAN
Initials: A
Nationality: New Zealand
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canterbury Regiment, N.Z.E.F.
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 22/01/1918
Service No: 55455
Additional information: Son of John and Mary Jane Dunn, of 5, Holmes St., Waimate, South Canterbury, New Zealand.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: BUTTES NEW BRITISH CEMETERY (N.Z.) MEMORIAL, POLYGON WOOD


Name: DUNN, PETER DAVID
Initials: P D
Nationality: New Zealand
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Otago Regiment, N.Z.E.F.
Date of Death: 08/08/1915
Service No: 8/781
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. John Dunn, of 5, Holmes St., Waimate.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 15.
Memorial: CHUNUK BAIR (NEW ZEALAND) MEMORIAL

Cheers, Diane

Diane,
Excellent, they are not on my list - thank you very much. The database has now well over 1,000 sets of brothers who qualify!
Bob

Is this a Gallipoli casualty? Were 69th Bde. at Gallipoli? SDGW says he is MELVOY killed F & F! No Melvoy exists CWGC,

MELOY, ALBERT
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "D" Bty. 69th Bde.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 06/08/1915
Service No: 8636
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Mary Ann Taylor, of 14, Lenthorp Rd., Greenwich, Lorldon.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: J. 183.
Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

I think this is his brother
MELOY, JOHN JAMES
Initials: J J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: London Regiment
Unit Text: 20th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 30/08/1918
Service No: 630278
Additional information: Son of Mary Ann Taylor (formerly Meloy), of 14, Lenthorp Rd., East Greenwich, London, and the late Samuel Meloy.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sp. Mem. A. 3.
Cemetery: H.A.C. CEMETERY, ECOUST-ST. MEIN

Can you help, please?
Bob

Bob,
It looks like it, here are some more. There are also others on Alexandria (Chatby) in the same Bde, but different Bty who are Egypt according to SDGW. However these three are from the same unit and dates:

Name: SMITH, EDWARD
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "D" Bty. 69th Bde.
Age: 17
Date of Death: 13/08/1915
Service No: 3292
Additional Information: Son of the late James and Matilda Smith.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 21 and 22.
Cemetery: HELLES MEMORIAL

Name: GILLARD, HARRY
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "D" Bty. 69th Bde.
Date of Death: 07/08/1915
Service No: 3719
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 21 and 22.
Cemetery: HELLES MEMORIAL

Name: HANKEY, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "D" Bty. 69th Bde.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 18/08/1915
Service No: 12329
Additional Information: Son of George and Elizabeth Hankey, of 10, Castle Bank, Weaver Rd., Northwich.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 21 and 22.
Cemetery: HELLES MEMORIAL

Bob

If you find any info on the Hogben boys may I have it please as Iam working on all WWI Hogbens.
I have CWGC on them and my photos from France and that's all.

Tim

From another thread:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...showtopic=69178

Have you got these, Bob?

Three of the five sons of war correspondant Bennet Burleigh. The first, Bennet jnr, killed at Gallipoli (identity confirmed in the other thread):

Name: BURLEIGH
Initials: B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 15/07/1915
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 50.
Cemetery: LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=599626

Name: BURLEIGH, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Unit Text: 15th Sqdn.
Secondary Regiment: Royal Engineers
Secondary Unit Text: and
Age: 23
Date of Death: 28/08/1916
Additional information: Son of Bennet Burleigh and Bertha Bennet Burleigh.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: C. 9.
Cemetery: KNIGHTSBRIDGE CEMETERY, MESNIL-MARTINSART
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=180358

Name: BURLEIGH, JAMES EMIL
Initials: J E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 12th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 12/10/1917
Awards: MC
Additional information: Son of Bennet Burleigh (War Correspondent) and Bertha Bennet Burleigh, of 19, Glyn Mansions, West Kensington, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 141 to 143 and 162.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=843720

Regards,
Adrian

Cyril and Gerard Lydekker, both Officers of the 1st/5th Bedfords. 2/Lt Cyril was killed on Gallipoli 15-8-1915 in the battalions first charge and his brother Lt &QM Gerard died 14-6-1917 from Myasthenia gravis in Alexandria. Both are breifly here - http://www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/id23.html

My apologies for the delay in replying and thanking you all was necessitated by a week in France and on my return a computer crash!
All information is most appreciated, but the Meloy/Melloy question remains!
Bob

Hi there, Bob,

I think I've found two brothers for you whilst researching into the death of another man.

Robert H. Jones of the 7th RWF was killed by a shell on Lala Baba hill on December 8th 1915. Hit by the same shell was Thomas Evan Roberts (2602) of the same regiment. I'm unsure as to the specifics of Roberts's death, but Jones was killed when a pellet went through his lungs. Both men were buried in the same hole that night.

Roberts had earlier lost a brother at Suvla Bay (I think) on 10 August 1915. His name was David and his regimental number was 2600. The brothers were natives of Abergynolwyn, which is a pretty little village not far from the south-western corner of the old Merionethshire. Their parents renamed their home Suvla House to honour their sons.

I hope this isn't too late for your collection.

Trebrys.

May I put this back to the top, please, I'm particularly lacking in UK brothers so any more would be very welcome, thank-you,
Bob

The Williams brothers of the Penmaenmawr Company of the 6th Battalion, Royal Welsh Fusiliers:

Richard Ellis Williams
Private
Royal Welsh Fusiliers
1st/6th Bn
Date of death: 11 August 1915
Service No: 1062
Of Tan-y-Clogwen, Dwygyfylchi
Son of Hugh P and Jane Williams of Waen Post Office, Conway
Brother of Robert W Williams
Buried grave II.D.59 East Mudros Military Cemetery, Lemnos

Robert W Williams
Lance Corporal
Royal Welsh Fusiliers
1st/6th Bn
Date of death: 12 November 1915
Service No: 361
Of Tan-y-Clogwen, Dwygyfylchi
Son of Hugh P and Jane Williams of Waen Post Office, Conway
Brother of Richard Ellis Williams
Helles Memorial, panel 77-80

The 1/6th Bn RWF landed C beach Suvla Bay on 9th August and joined the 5th and 7th RWF in their attack on the 10th August.

Jabez West K-in-A 10/08/15 9th R Warwicks on the Helles Memorial

James West Duke of Cornwalls' light infantry K-in-A 02/04/18 on Pozieres Memorial

Possibly a 3rd brother is Herbert West 2/8th R Warwicks Died of Wounds 26/06/16 on Loos Memorial

Jabez and James are on CWGC with the same mothers address.
I have the Medals of Jabez and Herbert, bought at an auction with the auctioneer saying that they had come direct from the family but no address given on CWGC for Herbert.
Alan

Hello Bob,

Do you have these brothers?

Casualty Details
Name: FREYBERG, OSCAR
Initials: O
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sub-Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: Collingwood Bn. R.N. Div.
Date of Death: 04/06/1915
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 8 to 15.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Name: FREYBERG, PAUL MILTON
Initials: P M
Nationality: New Zealand
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment/Service: New Zealand Rifle Brigade
Unit Text: 4th Bn. 3rd
Age: 32
Date of Death: 18/06/1917
Service No: 12374
Additional information: Son of Julia Freyberg, and the late James Freyberg, of 12, Parliament St., Wellington, New Zealand. His brother Oscar fell at Gallipoli.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. A. 7.
Cemetery: BOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERY


Cheers, Diane

Hello

I have just discovered details of my Grandfather's 3 cousins, all 3 brothers died in the War, one at Gallipoli.

I have just posted on another 'Brothers' forum thread, and also emailed re the site's Brothers database, so forgive me if I just copy the following.

With many thanks for the opportunity to commemorate these men:-

Honoured to add in the following, my Grandfather's cousins; from a chance remark I have just found out about this, a further, similar and sad tale; early days in my research but I believe these were the only children and therefore the family's line was to end with their deaths.

Details from CWGC; have been looking at other posts, I assume the 'additional information' is most likely to be from relatives, and given at the time?

(I would of course like to find there are other living relatives whose research resulted in the addition; but I think I am the first to 'remember' these 3 in a long time and am feeling very attached to them, you all know how it gets to you...)


With best wishes for your Project, I look forward to reading more.



VICKERS, PERCY
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers
Unit Text: "A" Coy. 1st/7th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 20/12/1915
Service No: 2003
Additional information: Son of Joseph and Mary Vickers, of 15, Milford St., Seedley, Manchester.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 58 to 72 or 218 to 219.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

VICKERS, LOUIS
Initials: L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Warwickshire Regiment
Unit Text: 2nd/5th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Service No: 7321
Additional information: Son of Joseph and Mary Vickers, of 15, Milford St., Seedley, Manchester. Born at Chester.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. J. 13.
Cemetery: RUE-DU-BACQUEROT No.1 MILITARY CEMETERY, LAVENTIE

VICKERS, HARRY
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers
Unit Text: 15th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Service No: 10265
Additional information: Son of Joseph and Mary Vickers, of 15, Milford St., Seedley, Manchester. Enlisted Nov., 1914. One of three brothers who fell.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 3 C and 3 D.

Hi Bob,
What a dreadfully sad thread as you read through it in one sitting like I have just done - this one is just for interest and doesn't qualify for your research.
Doing my own research on Old Boys at my school (Harper and Lukin brothers there) and finally tracked Malcolm St Aiden Teasdale Smith killed at Gallipoli, and this morning discovered (thanks to Sue, Esskay) that he had a younger brother killed in WW2, Capt 2Bt. East Yorkshire Regiment). Their mother was living in Suffolk at the time of his death. As a mother, you think "I have to go through this all over again". Awful.
Brilliant work you are doing
Cheers
Shirley

Do you have these brothers on your list?

Name:MULLIN, ALBERT
Initials:A
Nationality:Australian
Rank:Private
Regiment/Service:Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
Unit Text:3rd Bn.
Age:24
Date of Death:20/05/1915
Service No:995
Additional information:Son of Jane Mullin, of 3, Sullivan Avenue, South Dunedin, New Zealand. Native of Dunedin.
Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:D. 7.
Cemetery:4th BATTALION PARADE GROUND CEMETERY

Name:MULLIN, JAMES
Initials:J
Nationality:New Zealand
Rank:Private
Regiment/Service:Otago Regiment, N.Z.E.F.
Unit Text:Main Body
Date of Death:08/05/1915
Service No:8/977
Additional information:Brother of Mrs. E. Aitken, of Paddington, Sydney, New South Wales.
Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial:TWELVE TREE COPSE (NEW ZEALAND) MEMORIAL

Cheers, Diane

Shirley,
Thank you for the details which are indeed most sad, and for your kind words,

Highland,
Thank you too for the Vickers brothers, I did have them but it is good to remember them again,

Although this project can never close and really reach a finite list, and because the numbers are staggering it was decided to publish it in full on the web-site of the Gallipoli Association and you can find it at -

http://gallipoli-association.org/default.as

In addition as I shall continue to keep it updated if anyone would like a copy in full for themselves, please send me your e-mail address,
Bob

Re my last posting, the Gallipoli Association should read -

http://gallipoli-association.org/default.asp

Mea culpa! (Thanks, Geoff!)

Excellent site Bob. Thanks for posting the link.

Cheers, Diane

I am new to the forum but just wondered if you have the Moonan brothers on your list, one of who died in Gallip

Richard Moonan
8th Btn Scottish Rifles
321
Died 28/06/1915
Remembered on The Helles Memorial

John Joseph Moonan
1st Btn H. L. I.
7850
Died 21/12/1914
Remembered on Le Touret Memorial

James Patrick Moonan
6th Btn K.O.S.B.
40621
Died 03/05.1917
Remembered Arras Memorial.

One other brother survved .
All these lads from Glasgow and members of my family.
I have just returned from Gallipoli where i visited The Helles Memoril and ifar as i know the first member of the family to do so.

Bob,

2 more for you:

Name: CUDWORTH
Initials: S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry
Unit Text: Portsmouth Bn. R.N. Div.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 19/06/1915
Service No: PO/113 (S)
Additional information: Son of Mr. W. and Mrs. E. A. Cudworth, of 18, Sandy Lane, Mansfield, Notts.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 65.
Cemetery: EAST MUDROS MILITARY CEMETERY


Name: CUDWORTH
Initials: T W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry
Unit Text: Portsmouth Bn. R.N. Div
Age: 24
Date of Death: 30/05/1915
Service No: PO/114(S)
Additional information: Husband of A. E. Cudworth of 113, New Gladstone St., Mansfield.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 9.
Cemetery: LANCASHIRE LANDING CEMETERY

Cheers

Diane, Shona & Anthony,
Aplogies for the delay in repling, but I 've been in Ypres. Thank you for your kind words and the new sets of brothers, both of whom were not known to me, so the list continues to grow,
Bob

Bob

Some Cardiff brothers you may not have:

Pte Arthur Antcliffe, 8 Welsh, 8/8/15, Helles Memorial
Dvr Henry Antcliffe, RFA, 14/7/17 Bailleul Road East Cemetery
(Relationship confirmed in Western Mail, In Memorium notice, 11/11/1930)

Sgt Percy Boswell, 1/6 Manchester, 7/8/15, Helles Memorial
2Lt Alan Boswell, RAF, 2/10/18, Arras Flying Services Memorial

Pte Percy Gerard Atwill, 13 Australian Infantry, 27/8/15, Lone Pine Memorial
I think you already have details of his brothers Thomas (19/5/15) and Leslie (30/1/17)

Aneurin

Aneurin,
Many thanks, I was aware of the Atwills, but neither of the others,
Regards,
Bob