Can anybody advise if the London Gazette published the list of all people awarded the 1914 star and bar trio? Even those who were killed in action before the medal was announced?
My problem is the name is very common and I dont have time to trawl every single mention over the span of the war so would appreciate an insight into what the "norm" may have been then so that I can try to limit my search a bit.
Specifically, looking for Lance Coporal James Martin, 1239 1Bn King's Royal Rifle Corp. Killed in action October 26th 1914.
Thanks in anticipation.
Di
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Di
THe LG does not announce the award of campaign medals. To do that on-line , you need to visit the National Archive website. To see the full details of his entitlement you will need to download his medal index card. It will cost you £3-50p to download. Just follow the instuctions.
The link is here, just click on it:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...ryType=1&result
Terry Reeves
THe LG does not announce the award of campaign medals. To do that on-line , you need to visit the National Archive website. To see the full details of his entitlement you will need to download his medal index card. It will cost you £3-50p to download. Just follow the instuctions.
The link is here, just click on it:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...ryType=1&result
Terry Reeves
QUOTE (Terry_Reeves @ Dec 5 2005, 09:05 PM) 
Di
THe LG does not announce the award of campaign medals. To do that on-line , you need to visit the National Archive website. To see the full details of his entitlement you will need to download his medal index card. It will cost you £3-50p to download. Just follow the instuctions.
The link is here, just click on it:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...ryType=1&result
Terry Reeves
THe LG does not announce the award of campaign medals. To do that on-line , you need to visit the National Archive website. To see the full details of his entitlement you will need to download his medal index card. It will cost you £3-50p to download. Just follow the instuctions.
The link is here, just click on it:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...ryType=1&result
Terry Reeves
Thanks Tom, already got a copy of the MIC so I know the entitlement is official, National Archive pointed me to London Gazette but didnt indicate exactly what, if anything I would find. Pulling together archive material on James so needed to explore or elminate it as a source of info. Bit of a beginner at this so appreciate info.
Di
Di,
The 1914 Star was instituted in 1917, so there will not be anything published about it prior to this. I've found that newspapers, national and local, seem to be pretty good at covering things like this. One of the local papers I looked up did a fantastic piece on the Silver War Badge when that was brought out and printed a cracking picture of one. This might be an avenue for you try?
The British War Medal and Victory Medal that made up the rest of the trio could have been issued around 1922/23.
The London Gazette is mainly of use to you if you need to find the date of a gallantry award or decoration, or if you are trying to track an officers promotions and appointments.
I wish you success.
Nigel
The 1914 Star was instituted in 1917, so there will not be anything published about it prior to this. I've found that newspapers, national and local, seem to be pretty good at covering things like this. One of the local papers I looked up did a fantastic piece on the Silver War Badge when that was brought out and printed a cracking picture of one. This might be an avenue for you try?
The British War Medal and Victory Medal that made up the rest of the trio could have been issued around 1922/23.
The London Gazette is mainly of use to you if you need to find the date of a gallantry award or decoration, or if you are trying to track an officers promotions and appointments.
I wish you success.
Nigel
Hi Di,
The details I have come from two sources. The first is the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Website and the second is the Soldiers Died CD-Rom.
MARTIN, JAMES
Lance Corporal
1st Bn.King's Royal Rifle Corps
Age: 38
Killed In Action on 26/10/1914.
Service No: 1239
Son of the late Patrick and Mary Martin; husband of the late Sarah Martin.
YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL. Panel 51 and 53.
Born: Burton. Enlisted:Lichfield :Resident: Nottingham
As Terry Reeves pointed out to you there is no information in the LG about the allocation of Campaign Medals, only gallantry awards and officer promotions.
The mother site, The Long Long Trail gives a great account of what happened during the early Ypres battles where your man was killed. This link will take you to the site, if you have not been there already.Long Long Trail
The Medal Index Card refers to the Medal Rolls and these may give the date that he entered the theatre of war. However, it look as though the Battalion arrived in Le Harve on the 11th August 1914 so you won't much more detail on the Medal Rolls than you already have.
As you may be aware, there is a chance that his service record survived and these are hel on microfilm at the National Archives in Kew. The references are WO363 (Burnt Records) and WO364 (Unburnt Records). The difference is that the Burnt Records as those that survived an air raid in 1940 (60% were destroyed) and the Unburnt Records are a sample of those service records that were held by the Ministry of Pensions from serviceman who appled for war pensions after service in the Great War, who had suffered some form of medical disability due to wounds or illness.
A search of the records needs to be done by either yourself or someone acting on your behalf.
Hope this helps.
Regards
PAUL JOHNSON
The details I have come from two sources. The first is the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Website and the second is the Soldiers Died CD-Rom.
MARTIN, JAMES
Lance Corporal
1st Bn.King's Royal Rifle Corps
Age: 38
Killed In Action on 26/10/1914.
Service No: 1239
Son of the late Patrick and Mary Martin; husband of the late Sarah Martin.
YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL. Panel 51 and 53.
Born: Burton. Enlisted:Lichfield :Resident: Nottingham
As Terry Reeves pointed out to you there is no information in the LG about the allocation of Campaign Medals, only gallantry awards and officer promotions.
The mother site, The Long Long Trail gives a great account of what happened during the early Ypres battles where your man was killed. This link will take you to the site, if you have not been there already.Long Long Trail
The Medal Index Card refers to the Medal Rolls and these may give the date that he entered the theatre of war. However, it look as though the Battalion arrived in Le Harve on the 11th August 1914 so you won't much more detail on the Medal Rolls than you already have.
As you may be aware, there is a chance that his service record survived and these are hel on microfilm at the National Archives in Kew. The references are WO363 (Burnt Records) and WO364 (Unburnt Records). The difference is that the Burnt Records as those that survived an air raid in 1940 (60% were destroyed) and the Unburnt Records are a sample of those service records that were held by the Ministry of Pensions from serviceman who appled for war pensions after service in the Great War, who had suffered some form of medical disability due to wounds or illness.
A search of the records needs to be done by either yourself or someone acting on your behalf.
Hope this helps.
Regards
PAUL JOHNSON
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