Greg Bloomfield
May 12 2007, 06:51 PM
Watching 'Three Kings at War' tonight on Channel 4 the narrator said that Murmansk was under British control in 1917. Can anybody tell me the circumstances that led to this as it's something I was completely unaware of.
Thanks
Greg
Dolphin
May 13 2007, 03:07 AM
Greg
I think that the program was slightly wrong: it was 1918, not 1917, when Murmansk came under British control. In essence, Murmansk was established as an ice-free port on the Kola River for supplies to reach Russia from the Western Allies, ie as a year-round alternative to Archangel. Construction started in late 1915 and the port facilities, and the necessary railway to connect it to the rest of Russia, were completed by the end of 1916. Much of the money came from Britain, and much of the labour was supplied by Austro-Hungarian Prisoners of War.
Murmansk also served as the base for a Royal Navy squadron dedicated to keeping check on German U-boats and minelayers. However, when Russia left the War in late 1917, it looked as if there was a good chance that Murmansk could fall to the Germans, thereby giving them an ice-free U-boat base from where Atlantic sea-lanes could be menaced. In addition, there was a considerable amount of Allied stores, once destined for Russian use, left there. Hence, on 6 March 1918, a British force landed from HMS Glory to quell any pro-Bolshevik demonstrations and to safeguard the port from the Germans. It was the beginning of Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War.
For more information, see The Day We Almost Bombed Moscow by Christopher Dobson and John Miller; ISBN 0 340 33723 0.
Regards
Gareth
Greg Bloomfield
May 13 2007, 11:30 AM
Thanks Gareth
Apparently a British officer was trying to put together a team of fluent Russian speakers to try to spring the Tsar and his family. They were to be based in 'British controlled Murmansk' from where the op was to be mounted but this was in 1917 so it seems somebody has got their facts wrong.
Cheers
Greg
centurion
May 13 2007, 11:36 AM
There was also an American contingent involved (not to be confused with the Americans sent to secure the Trans Siberian Railway)
LenT
May 13 2007, 11:40 AM
As a matter of interest my grandfather was in the Royal Marines and was wounded in Murmansk in 1919.
Len
centurion
May 13 2007, 12:12 PM
Photo of an American convoy at Murmansk gives an interesting view of the conditions
david murdoch
May 14 2007, 12:13 AM
Taking a look at the CWGC site, and the cemeteries at Murmansk and Archangel, the bulk of the casualties are late 1918 and 1919 - there were quite a spread of units involved.
centurion
May 14 2007, 08:03 PM
You might be interested in the emblen of the North Russia Expeditionary Force. It seems that this was worn by both British and American troops
T8HANTS
May 14 2007, 08:40 PM
Here are a couple of Photos from my Grandfather who was there with HMS Cochrane, and one of the shore parties from the ship.
Gareth
Staffsyeoman
May 15 2007, 07:56 AM
QUOTE (centurion @ May 14 2007, 09:03 PM)

You might be interested in the emblen of the North Russia Expeditionary Force. It seems that this was worn by both British and American troops
First off, this subject has been raised before on Forum, so a search should bring it up.
Second, I can do no more than recommend (heartily) [Major General] Clifford Kinvig's "Churchill's Crusade" which came out last year, and is about our involvement in Russia in the round (it includes the Russian Far East, the Black Sea and the Baltic). Best modern account.
Third; Not so sure the Polar Bear was worn by the British (and Canadians) in North Russia; certainly was by Americans. The British badge was a five pointed star on a blue square. There is a picture of General Maynard wearing it in Ironside's account "Archangel 1919". I believe the Canadian contingent changed the background colour according to arm of service, but not certain of that.
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