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jimmie
I'm interested in any information on the 21 Stationary Hospital, Salonika and particularly those who served there. Can any Panel member assist please?

Regards,
Jim
apwright
I don't have much on this one, but according to my information, 21 Stationary Hospital was at Karaissi (between the city and Lembet Camp) until June 1917, when it moved up country to Sarigol, near Kilkis.

Adrian
Paul Treclyn
Looking at the 1917 diary of Ben Noot of the RAMC, I wonder if the 21 Stationary Hospital was his initial destination when he arrived in Salonika.

Apl 3 Arrived Salonika
Apl 4 Went to Karaissi
Apl 5 Joined 27 CCS Lembet (2 miles north of Salonika)

It would be interesting to know how the communciations links between the Stationary Hospitals and the Casualty Clearing Stations worked in the area.
jimmie
Thanks for your replies. I'll use Google Earth now on Karaissi. Sorry I can't help on the question of communications between the Stationary hospitals and the Casualty Clearing Stations but I'll be very interested to know the answer if anyone has it.
Regards,

Jim
apwright
Jim,
Karaissi (a.k.a. Kara Isin) was roughly where the suburbs of Polihni/Neapoli are now.
I'm not sure of the exact site, but Google Earth N40.666400 E22.950500 should be pretty close. Lembet Camp was about 1.5-2 miles further north.

Paul,
There were several hospitals around Karaissi during the campaign (including the main VD hospital), but I don't have much information. 29th Stationary was there in 1918, which was after 21st had left, but I don't know if they were ever there at the same time or whether 29th moved in after 21st moved out.

Adrian
MartinWills
The relevant volume of the Medical Official History should carry some outline of where the unit was and when, but it is not an easy volume to track down - an inter-library loan request perhaps?
jimmie
Thanks Adrian for the more detailed description of where 21 Stationary Hospital stood. First time around my search on Google Earth got me nowhere but I'll now try again.
Also thanks to you Martin-I'll pursue that line of enquiry.
I also received a private communication from Rob who said his grandfather served in southern Russia 1919-1920 and was sent to 21 Stationary Hospital then in Turkey, in 1920. Could this be the same Stationary Hospital? I've always assumed that whilst a hospital retained its designation if it moved on the same Front, if it went to a different Front altogether it would be re-designated. Can anyone advise please?

Jim
RFT
Hello Jimmie and Apright

I sent Jimmie a message yesterday and can amplify as follows:

My grandfather served with "C" Flight, 47 Squadron RAF in South Russia 1919-20. According to his record of service he embarked South Russia 13th March 1920 and on 21st March was admitted to 21st Stationary Hospital, Feneraki. On the 29th March 1920 he was transferred to the 82nd General Hospital which I believe was also located in Turkey.

Any information on the 82nd General Hospital would be most welcome.

Best regards

Rob
apwright
82 General was in Salonika during 1918 (don't know when it arrived), and moved to Haidar Pasha, Istanbul, around 3 December 1918.
That's all I have, and it was probably gleaned from other threads on this forum!
See esp. http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...showtopic=26737

Adrian
jimmie
So it seems from your comments, Adrian, about 82 General, that hospitals retained their numbering even when they moved from one country to another. Therefore 21 Stationary Hospital would've moved to Turkey, as Rob has suggested. That's useful info.
Regards,

Jim
MartinWills
82 General Hospital was reorganised as a general hospital for 1560 (half British; half Indian) and moved to Constantinople "around the end of November 1918"

Prior to the move 25 Mobile Hygiene Laboratory and 26 Mobile Bacteriology Laboratory were attached to 82 General Hopsital for this move - which I suspect actually took place just into Dec 1918

As for 21 Stationary, it was withdrawn from Salonika to support 27th Divisionin the Caucasus along with 18 Stationary Hosp, 25 & 27 CCS, part of 7 MAC (Motor Ambulance Convoy), 22 Advanced deopt of medical stores and 28 Mobile Bacteriology Lab. 27 Div already had 81, 82 & 83 CCSs and a section of 110 Indian Field Ambulance was also added.Another section of 110 Indian Field Ambulance went to Chanak.

The 27th Div occupied posts in Armenia & Georgia. 21 Stationary Hosp., 27 CCS and 22 Advanced Deopt of Medical Stores were at Batoum. All the units associated with 27 Div in the Caucasus were disbanded along with 27Div at the time (in Sept 1919) of the withdrawl from the Caucasus and Trans-Caucasus. A small establishment was left at Batoum, being 27 CCS plus a sanitary section. Two sections of 82 Field Ambulance were also attached to 27 CCS. The garrison was eventually withdrawn in July 1920.

Hope this helps.
RFT
QUOTE (MartinWills @ Nov 19 2007, 11:36 PM) *
82 General Hospital was reorganised as a general hospital for 1560 (half British; half Indian) and moved to Constantinople "around the end of November 1918"

As for 21 Stationary, it was withdrawn from Salonika to support 27th Division in the Caucasus ....

The 27th Div occupied posts in Armenia & Georgia. 21 Stationary Hosp., 27 CCS and 22 Advanced Deopt of Medical Stores were at Batoum. All the units associated with 27 Div in the Caucasus were disbanded along with 27Div at the time (in Sept 1919) of the withdrawl from the Caucasus and Trans-Caucasus......


Martin Wills
I very much appreciate your information on the 82nd General Hospital and the 21st Stationary Hospital.

The 21st Stationary Hospital must have been relocated after September 1919. My Grandfather saw active service with 47 'A' Squadron ('C' Flight), South Russia, from June 1919 to 13th March 1920. According to his service record he was admitted to the 21st Stationary Hospital, Feneraki on the 21st March 1920, and thence, on 29th March, to the 82nd General Hospital. Upon returning to England he was admiited to Cambridge Military Hospital, Aldershot.

Are you aware of the existence of photographs or other records relative to the 21st Stationary and 82nd General Hospitals, or indeed Cambridge Military Hospital? I have recently acquired a postcard of the latter.

Any information or help will be very much appreciated.

Best Regards

Rob
jimmie
Thanks very much for that information , Martin. I think it fits the bill for both my query and Rob's.
Regards,

Jim
MartinWills
I must admit I was puzzled by the post 1919 references. It might be that the records I consulted are wrong (though this is unlikely) OR that if was re-constituted OR that the name stuck with the residue garrison.

I'm afraid I don't have any pictures at all relating to the post Salonika phases.
RFT
MartinWills

Re : 21st Stationary Hospital

Thankyou for your 6.09pm reply. If you come across any additional information I shall be pleased to hear.

Best regards

Rob
gerryl
Hi all. This is a photo of the 21st Stationary Hospital in Salonika. The old name of the area was Zeitenlik (Turkish name) on the way to Lembet.
RFT
Hello gerryl

Re : 21st Stationary Hospital
Thanks for your response and what a fantastic photograph of the 21st in Salonika.

Does anyone have a photo of the 21st Stationary Hospital, Feneraki?

Rob
jimmie
My thanks too Gerryl for the photo. Great work.

Jim
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