frogturn
Jan 3 2008, 07:08 PM
Hello everyone.I would like to share a photo album,I picked up from my local oxfam shop fairly recently.
No names to be found anywhere but an interest in guns suggests the phographer was maybe a gunner.
The other none military pics,show Bombay,India and places in Italy,all places i think he was posted to.
I think they are very interesting,especially the fact our troops are there now.
I would be interested in the ship in camo.
frogturn
Jan 3 2008, 07:14 PM
frogturn
Jan 3 2008, 07:17 PM
Anti aircraft gun on railway truck 1918,mesopatamia
frogturn
Jan 3 2008, 07:21 PM
60 pdr 157 battery 1918 mesopatamia.
would be very interested in identifying this unit.
Captured turkish gun[7.7cms]
Kate Wills
Jan 3 2008, 07:28 PM
You lucky person. What a find.
Is that a Q-ship in the first photo?
frogturn
Jan 3 2008, 07:52 PM
I don't know anything about ships[not much about anything else either!!]I was hoping one of the wizz kids on ships might identify it ,theres people out there who really know their stuff.
I was chuffed to find the album,it had been overlooked in a corner with the grand price of £1.99!
I keep on going back,but no follow ups yet.
I bet the owner had an interesting life,from the pictures.
regards,paul.
bushfighter
Jan 3 2008, 08:28 PM
Frog
Well done on your find & thanks for letting us see the images.
These are very interesting pictures & I hope that experts will comment on them.
Please keep looking for more!
Harry
centurion
Jan 3 2008, 08:34 PM
Two of the photos are of Babylon including the lion
Repulse
Jan 4 2008, 10:00 PM
You lucky chap ! Excellent pictures !
Jim_Grundy
Jan 5 2008, 12:02 PM
The Official History doesn't include much about 157th (Heavy) Battery, Royal Garrison Artillery but here goes.
The battery was part of 7th (Indian) Division Group and it did indeed arrive in Basra from India in July 1916. At some time it received caterpillar tractors to pull its four 60 pdrs. and took part in the February 1917 recapture of Kut. In November 1917 it took part in the action at Daur.
In April 1918 the artillery was reorganised and 157th Battery was part of 101st Brigade, Royal Garrison Artillery, serving in the advance up the Tigris with the 17th Divisional Group. Its last action appears to have been at Sharqat at the end of October 1918 just prior to the armistice with Turkey.
Sorry, nothing else to report other than similar feelings of envy at your find!
Cheers,
Jim
Mikemeso
Jan 5 2008, 04:37 PM
The AA gun is one of 10 1pdr pompoms deployed to Mes. 5 sections each of two guns were mounted on railway trucks to cover supply trains on the LoC.
Source: Routledge, History of the Royal Regiment of Artillery - Anti-Aircraft Artillery 1914-1955, Brassey's 1994.
Mike
frogturn
Jan 5 2008, 07:20 PM
Thanks to everyone for the info.Its a shame i could find no name on the album,but my gut feeling was it was taken by an officer in the artillery.
the album also shows non military scenes of india[bombay]a bear at a zoo a snake charmer.also scenes in italy abou 1918.I'll post some later if i can.
Thanks again to everyone,Paul.
frogturn
Jan 5 2008, 08:55 PM
This picture has no caption but was next to one i identified as in Italy.
Can anyone identify the military gents nationality?
frogturn
Jan 5 2008, 09:01 PM
This is captioned tight rope walker bombay 1919,so the unit returned to India after mesopotamia.
boats on banks of tigris baghdad 1918
Restaurant signboard Basra 1918
linden
Jan 6 2008, 03:27 AM
What fabulous photographs .
That wasn't Lawrence of Arabia , was it ?
157th R.G.A
May 29 2009, 12:15 PM
My great grandfather was in the 157th in Mesopotamia. These pictures are fabulous.
TD60
May 30 2009, 08:29 PM
A trial to have a better view on pic 1...
Click to view attachmentCurious boat... nice coatings
TD60
jimmycarr828
May 30 2009, 10:43 PM
The ship might be the Cawdor Castle, have a look on google images. I know it was used as a troop ship by the 1st/5th Hampshire Regiment to get to India in 1914.
ericthornton
May 31 2009, 12:29 AM
Great photos
Can't help with the ship's name but I did pick up some interesting info from an old Purnell's magazine special on WW1 warships that mentions dazzle-painting.
Efforts to camoflage ships in a way that made them invisible suffered due to the superstructure still being silhouetted against the skyline when targeted by U-boats. Rather than trying to make the ships invisible marine artist Norman Wilkinson suggested they be made so conspicuous as to create an optical illusion that would distort their size, course and speed and confound a U-boat attack run.
The admiralty progressed Wilkinson's idea by also painting large areas of contrasting colour over the superstructure that further broke up the ship's form and outline.
The dazzle patterns were designed at the Royal Accademy in Piccadily whilst special dazzle officers oversaw the actual painting of the ships in harbour.
By late 1917 the admiralty adopted the scheme as standard for the mercantile marine and also some warships.
ET
martinclift
May 31 2009, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (frogturn @ Jan 3 2008, 08:08 PM)

Hello everyone.I would like to share a photo album,I picked up from my local oxfam shop fairly recently.
No names to be found anywhere but an interest in guns suggests the phographer was maybe a gunner.
The other none military pics,show Bombay,India and places in Italy,all places i think he was posted to.
I think they are very interesting,especially the fact our troops are there now.
I would be interested in the ship in camo.
Have you tried ore friends at the Royal Navy section of this forum? They have some brilliant experts. You never know you might get the answer you want.
Martin
matteyre
Jun 17 2009, 10:52 AM
fantastic photos, was the 17th division referred to the 17th Indian Division? Have some pics from 6th LAMB attached to the 17th from my wifes grandfather John William Flower who was in mesopotamia in armoured cars
bob lembke
Jun 17 2009, 04:09 PM
QUOTE (frogturn @ Jan 5 2008, 04:55 PM)
This picture has no caption but was next to one i identified as in Italy.
Can anyone identify the military gents nationality?
Frog;
Re: the Italian (?) scene a few posts back, the military type is almost certainly Italian.
Additionally, I have seen photos of a similar or the same large building and large square before it, taken just after the city, a fairly large one taken I believe in the November 1917 Ionzo attack, with lots of German troops, equipment, etc. in front of the building. But possibly it was standard Italian monumental architecture of the period found in many cities.
Bob Lembke
Post # 13.
Bob
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