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DaveC

Hi All

Seeking information on the above Regiment, also any information on these Officers:- Lt Hermens Company Commander 10th/66th, Lt of Reserves Mewes, Under Officer Nonnemann, Lt of Reserves Botticher, Lt of Reserves Kroplin, Lt, Mener Platoon Comander, 3rd Machine Gun Company, Cpl. Muller, Under Officer Horn. I know it's a long shot but thought i would give it a go. Kindest Regards DaveC

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Jack Sheldon

Dave

Can you make your question a little more precise, please? IR 66 was part of 52nd Infantry Division from its formation on 6 March 1915. 26th Inf Div came from Wuerttemberg, so IR 66, Prussian, from Magdeburg, had nothing to do with that formation. It was initially part of 7th Div, fighting at places such as Mons. A number of the men you mention were KIA, including Boetticher, Hermens and Mewes. There is a good history, so I should be able to home in on what you want, once you can define it more closely.

Jack

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Jack Sheldon

Dave

I have sent you a map of the deployment area of IR 66 in early September 1916 to your e mail address. Get back to me if it does not arrive safely.

Jack

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trajan

I am certain I was reading something somewhere on GWF about this unit which took me to Zuber's book, https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/publication/the-german-66th-regiment-in-the-first-world-war/9780750962001/ But while a Google finds it, a GWF 'Search' does not! Anyway, I am reading it now. Interesting!  

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The Prussian

Hello!

Unfortunately all documents about prussian soldiers were destroyed by an air raid in ´44. (IR66 was a prussian regiment from Magdeburg)

The regimental history could help or check the casualty lists:

http://des.genealogy.net/eingabe-verlustlisten/search/index

The regiment had never been in that division!

2.8.14-8.3.15: 7.Inf.Div.

10.3.15-1.4.17: 52.Inf.Div.

1.4.17-23.12.18: 113.Inf.Div.

 

The regiment was temporary in the württemberg 26.Reserve-Division! (1.9.16-3.10.16)

Edited by The Prussian

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trajan
11 minutes ago, The Prussian said:

Hello!

Unfortunately all documents about prussian soldiers were destroyed by an air raid in ´44. (IR66 was a prussian regiment from Magdeburg)

The regimental history could help or check the casualty lists:

http://des.genealogy.net/eingabe-verlustlisten/search/index

The regiment had never been in that division!

2.8.14-8.3.15: 7.Inf.Div.

10.3.15-1.4.17: 52.Inf.Div.

1.4.17-23.12.18: 113.Inf.Div.

 

The regiment was temporary in the württemberg 26.Reserve-Division! (1.9.16-3.10.16)

 

Hi Andy,

 

I have been off GWF for a while - for "this and that".

 

Zuber's book is - it says - a translation of the O.Korfes edition of the 1930 regimental history... No, I have not and do not intend to do a page by page check (! - I am too old and too busy for that!), but yes, as you say, ID 72, then ID 52, then ID 113. 

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The Prussian

Hello Julian!

Let´s wait for Dave. Maybe he mixed the active and the reserve division.

If he confirm the reserve-division we have a period of one month (september 1916)

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trajan
21 minutes ago, The Prussian said:

... Unfortunately all documents about prussian soldiers were destroyed by an air raid in ´44. 

 

An addition - but a pedantic one! My research - not intense by any means - suggests the Potsdam air raid was the 14th February and 14th April 1945... Happy to be corrected! But note also the Russian Military archive web-page on documents recovered from there -  http://tsamo.germandocsinrussia.org/ru/nodes/1-germanskie-dokumenty-pervoy-mirovoy-voyny-tsamo-fond-500-opis-12519

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Martin Feledziak

I read the book and took some notes too ( great book by the way) but then again it is the only German Regimental History available in English.

 

here is the report for 

 Bötticher Walter (Hagen i. W.) and

Kroplin

they are both mentioned in the book

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/4617116

 

Martin

 

Edited by Martin Feledziak

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The Prussian

Of course, your are right. Do you remember "sausage-fingers"? I hit the 4 instead of the 5...

The air raid against the Potsdam archive was April 14, 1945

 

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Martin Feledziak
On 27/07/2010 at 13:03, DaveC said:

Lt of Reserves Botticher, Lt of Reserves Kroplin, Lt, Mener Platoon Comander, 3rd Machine Gun Company,

 

They both appear on page 177 of the book in a strong fortification called Feste Schwaben

it is Lt MEYER of the third machine gun company who describes the events

 

The second assault between St Pierre Divion and Thiepval September 1916.

 

 

Edited by Martin Feledziak

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trajan
17 hours ago, The Prussian said:

Of course, your are right. Do you remember "sausage-fingers"? I hit the 4 instead of the 5...

The air raid against the Potsdam archive was April 14, 1945

 

:rolleyes:

 

16 hours ago, Martin Feledziak said:

They both appear on page 177 of the book in a strong fortification called Feste Schwaben

 

Just getting there! Thanks!

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Martin Feledziak

I have only just noticed that the OP was from 2010.

So just 7 years for us to contribute.

 

To be fair the translation was only available at the end of last year so we would not have been able to "Chip in".

Just goes to show that information flow is getting so much better.

 

Martin

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trajan

Well, finished that one. The last few pages are quite gripping, and the slow reduction of the regiment as a fighting force in the last days of the GW is quite shocking - down to 150 effectives at one point, from an official strength in 1914 of over 3,000...

 

What I also found interesting - in the sense of how badly prepared the Deutsches Heer was for the GW (on the  9th February 1915, the Prussian War Ministry complained of how the country with the ‘largest arms industry in the world’ found it impossible to supply its own army with the infantry weaponry then needed!) - was the way the regiment had to hand back its Gew.98 when it left the front line 6th-7th March 1915 to help equip the Infanterie Division Nr.8 and a rear-area recruit depot. What came next is that they were re-assigned to the new Infanterie-Division Nr.52, and along with the other regiments in that division, Infanterie-Regiments Nr.169 and 170, were provided with "captured Russian weapons" - assuredly Mosin-Nagant rifles. Then, after returning to the front line on 25th/24th March, they handed these in for Gew.88 on 17th May, and were finally re-supplied with Gew.98 between 13th-17th November 1915.

 

This pattern of replacing new with old and then back to new again, to help Ersatz formations train with the 'modern' Gew.98, was not unique. The Füssilier-Regiment Nr. 60, for example, also had to hand over their Gew.98 for Gew.88 at one point, and - if my notes are correct - the entire Saxon Infanterie-Division Nr.58 as well.

 

I can't, though, recollect any British regiment going through a similar process... They arrived in the front line with what they had, be it SMLE's or Long-Lees!

 

Julian

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