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Rob Bulloch

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Rob Bulloch

Hello All. I picked this little book up today at a thrift store, it measures 5" x 4" about 1" thick it is printed by Gale and Polden Brompton Works Chatham and is dated Colchester 1891. would these standing orders be changed before 1914? or would they basically be the same.

TIA Aye Rob.

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Graham Stewart

Quite possibly as I have three copies for the Northumberland Fusiliers one of which is dated 1911. However what you have in your hand is possibly rarer than "rocking horse sh*t".

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Rob Bulloch

Graham. Thanks for the reply, I have had a chance to give the little book the once over and some of the standing orders seem sort of archaic even for 1914, one of the section on Officers Servants, Batmen and Grooms reads.

The wages of servants and grooms are on no account to exceed 10 shillings per mensem; should a groom have two or more horses to look after,the extra remuneration is not to exceed 5 shillings for the period mentioned.

The preface of the book is (Signed) D.G.JOHNSTON Lieut. Colonel Comdg Batt R Munster Fusiliers. Colchester 1891.

Graham, do you have any idea what the term mensem means?

Aye Rob.

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Andrew Upton

...on no account to exceed 10 shillings per mensem; ...Graham, do you have any idea what the term mensem means?

Per mensem - monthly basically.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/per%2Bmensem

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Rob Bulloch

Thanks Andrew. So would I be right in saying that for looking after two or more horses a groom would be paid sixpence (6d) a day on a 30 day month? Holy smoke!!

Aye Rob.

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FROGSMILE

Thanks Andrew. So would I be right in saying that for looking after two or more horses a groom would be paid sixpence (6d) a day on a 30 day month? Holy smoke!!

Aye Rob.

Rob there is a website dedicated to the RMF and I suspect they would love to have a scan of your book that is so rare. The link is here: http://www.royalmuns...rg/a1intro1.htm

I have in the past contacted the owner who seemed a very decent and genuine man devoted to commemorating the fine Regiment that the RMF were. It is notable that they had the fewest number of Irish soldiers sentenced to capital punishment in WW1 and that of the 57 POWs who joined the Germans "Irish Brigade" (not all of whom were Irish), only one was RMF.

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FROGSMILE

REPORTED BY THE TIMES NEWSPAPER LONDON JUNE 1922.

DISBANDED IRISH



REGIMENTS

COLOURS HANDED TO



THE KING

CEREMONY AT WINDSOR



(From our special Correspondent)

WINDSOR, June 12.

The ceremony which took place this morning at Windsor would, perhaps in pro-war days have been without any special significance to those who had not served in the Regular Army, but to-day, when practically all the manhood of our nation has passed through the ranks of the Army in the course of the great war, the outward and visible signs of the disbandment of ten historic infantry battalions is something which few can regard unmoved.

To-day the first and second battalions of the Royal Irish Regiment, the Connaught Rangers, the Leinster Regiment and Royal Munster Fusiliers, and the Royal Dublin Fusiliers, which are being disbanded, sent their Colours, their commanding officers and their Colour parties to Windsor, there to hand over to safe-keeping of the Sovereign the Colours which they have cherished and which are inscribed with the names of the battles in which they have been engaged from the days of Marlborough onward. Each Colour is in itself an epitome of the history of the British Army.

Forming up in the station yard at Windsor, and preceded and followed by escorts provided by the 3rd Battalion of his Majesty's First Guards, and with the band of that Regiment at the head of the procession, the ten Colour parties bearing their Colours aloft, marched up the hill to the Castle, the band playing the march-past of each Regiment in turn. Arrived at the entrance to St. George's Hall, the tune suddenly changed to "Auld Lang Syne', and so the column of Colour parties passed out of the great quadrangle.

Within, the ceremony was a private - almost of an intimate - character. The King inspected the representatives of his Irish Regiments, among which was a party of the South Irish Horse, and then addressed them as follows:-

We are here to-day in circumstances which cannot fail to strike a note of sadness in our hearts. No regiment parts with their Colours without feelings of sorrow. A knight in days gone by bore on his shield his coat-of-arms, tokens of valour and worth. Only to death did he surrender them.


Your Colours are the records of valorous deeds in war and of the glorious traditions thereby created. You are called upon to part with them to-day for reasons beyond your control and resistance. By you and your predecessors these Colours have been reverenced and guarded as a sacred trust - which trust you now confide in me.


As your King I am proud to accept this trust. But I fully realize with what grief you relinquish these dearly-prized emblems; and I pledge my word that within these ancient and historic walls your Colours will be treasured, honoured, and protected as hallowed memorials of the glorious deeds of brave and loyal regiments.

The king shook hands cordially and in regretful farewell with each member of the Colour parties. Then followed to each commanding officer a few words expressive of very real sympathy - and then came again the personal touch when his Majesty, the Head of the Army, handed to each of the several colonels a letter of goodbye addressed especially to each battalion, recalling it's past history, and expressing again his grateful appreciation of services rendered. And so the outstanding act of disbandment was accomplished, and soon nothing will remain of five splendid Irish regiments but a memory - and those banners in the Hall at Windsor Castle.

The King wore the Service uniform of a Filed Marshal, and was accompanied by the Queen, dressed in white, and Princess Mary, Viscountess Lascelles, dressed in grey. The Duke of Connaught, in Field Marshal's Service uniform, was with the King, and there were also present the Marquess of Cambridge, Governor of the Castle, Viscount Lascelles and the Earl of Athlone. Among the spectators were the Marchioness of Cambridge, Lady Mary Cambridge, and Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone.

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Rob Bulloch

Frogsmile. I managed to get the site you mentioned I would have no problem scanning and sending this to the site, But I could not find a "Contact Us" box do you know of any way to contact them.

Aye Rob.

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FROGSMILE

Frogsmile. I managed to get the site you mentioned I would have no problem scanning and sending this to the site, But I could not find a "Contact Us" box do you know of any way to contact them.

Aye Rob.

Rob, his name was James and at the time he was a member here in GWF,

and the email address was: info@royalmunsterfusiliers.org

This is what he said:

My web site has been around for a number of years. However it's> only since late 2004 that I obtained a Domain name, originally> started as royalmunsterfusiliers.net and recently when moved to a> new location became munsterfusiliers.net. Prior to 2004 I used the> free space provided by ISP's, however they only offered about 1 or> 2 MB. As web hosting and Domain names became more price competative> in Australia, I took the opportunity. The web site is now some 37> MB in total file size.>> Again thank you for your interest and look forward to further> contact.>> Regards,>> James O'Sulliavn.>> Munster Fusiliers Web Site> www.munsterfusiliers.net

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Rob Bulloch

Frogsmile..I sent a message to the address this morning, I will let you know if I hear from him.

Thanks Aye Rob.

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Rob Bulloch

Frogsmile.. I just checked my email, and the message I sent to the address was returned as undeliverable.

Aye Rob.

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FROGSMILE

Frogsmile.. I just checked my email, and the message I sent to the address was returned as undeliverable.

Aye Rob.

Thanks Rob, I don't know what his email is now but I will do some digging and see if I can find anything. That is the 4th domain he has had to use to get the necessary memory. I've done a search of his name among the members here, but nothing came up.

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FROGSMILE

is it the member Sullivan at the beginning of this thread?

http://1914-1918.inv...1

Yes I think it probably is as Cpl Tiller has been researched on the website. His name is apparently O'Sullivan but he seems to be just using Sullivan on here. Must let Rob know.

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