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Ghazala

attachicon.gifField Marshals and Generals.jpgI have an alternative variation on a theme. How many of these Field Marshals and Generals can you name without diving in to the extensive library? There are 22 in total in the painting by Sargent and 10 of them are Field Marshals. I managed to guess at 14 of the names but when it came to putting names to faces I got a miserable 5. What's your name to face score?

FM William Birdwood on the left I think.

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Uncle George

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Now this is another well known picture which always has a caption which I always find very poignant. But I wonder if it is true. So my question is - who is it? and does anyone have evidence or a view on whether it was taken precisely where and when it is claimed?

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David

I'm not familiar with this photograph. My guess would be Kipling.

EDIT - scrub that - I forgot that from your post no. 44 he is a July crisis figure.

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Ron Clifton

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The mods have okayed statistics and lists so I will start working on my spreadsheet this week (school being out for summer - as someone once said). The idea will be to have a list of names plus who posted and who solved. Once set up it will be relatively easy to maintain and I would look to republish it every few weeks.

As has been said a lot recently it really doesn't matter if there are repeats as they are invariably different pictures and new forum folk are contributing all the time.

Anyway, back to the July Crisis:

This ubiquitous picture of the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was invariably captioned as the capture of Princip. Recently though this has been changed to just being a 'supporter'

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Now this is another well known picture which always has a caption which I always find very poignant. But I wonder if it is true. So my question is - who is it? and does anyone have evidence or a view on whether it was taken precisely where and when it is claimed?

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David

Prince Lichnowsky? German Ambassador to the Court of St James.

Ron

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Stoppage Drill

This lady opened a convalescent camp at her home in WW1.

An old "Antiques Roadshow" recently rescreened (Aspel era) came from the grounds . . . .

Who is she, and what was the name of her convalescent camp ?

I see that she has been portrayed in a TV drama series quite recently - not Crimson Field I hasten to add.

I have not watched any of the series, so I cannot say whether any reference was made to her convalescent camp.

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CarylW

attachicon.gifField Marshals and Generals.jpgI have an alternative variation on a theme. How many of these Field Marshals and Generals can you name without diving in to the extensive library? There are 22 in total in the painting by Sargent and 10 of them are Field Marshals. I managed to guess at 14 of the names but when it came to putting names to faces I got a miserable 5. What's your name to face score?

I've heard/read about this painting before but I only identified 2 of them. The men 2nd, 6th and 7th, 11th from the left back row look as though they were painted in after it was completed, so maybe they were later appointments than the others?

(By the way, we were talking about Victor Chapman earlier and I was going to ask if any books had been written about the Lafayette Escadrille (corrected!) Looked in EL and found that a book 'Victor Chapman's letters from France and a memoir', published 1917 is online here, so downloaded it to kindle:

https://archive.org/details/victorchapmanlet00chap)

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Uncle George

This lady opened a convalescent camp at her home in WW1.

An old "Antiques Roadshow" recently rescreened (Aspel era) came from the grounds . . . .

Who is she, and what was the name of her convalescent camp ?

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Is this Evelyn Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire? Chatsworth House.

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Stoppage Drill

Lafayette Espadrille.

I'd give that book the boot, if I were you !

Is this Evelyn Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire? Chatsworth House.

No no, no.

à la baïonnette

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neverforget

Re: Generals painting. I managed 8, I think.

Birdwood, Botha, Rawlinson, Wilson, Plumer, Haig, French, and Currie.

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Stoppage Drill

Nearly same as me, but I think Smuts, not Botha

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CarylW

I'd give that book the boot, if I were you !

à la baïonnette

It's the tablet I use throwing up suggested spellings, or it might be just me going daft. Wild guess, Duchess of Connaught or Nancy Astor

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Stoppage Drill

It's the tablet I use throwing up suggested spellings, or it might be just me going daft. Wild guess, Duchess of Connaught or Nancy Astor

Nope. What was the poilus nickname for their bayonet ?

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Uncle George

Nope. What was the poilus nickname for their bayonet ?

Rosalie Selfridge, Highcliffe Castle

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CarylW

Pipped by UG!

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David Ridgus

attachicon.gifField Marshals and Generals.jpgI have an alternative variation on a theme. How many of these Field Marshals and Generals can you name without diving in to the extensive library? There are 22 in total in the painting by Sargent and 10 of them are Field Marshals. I managed to guess at 14 of the names but when it came to putting names to faces I got a miserable 5. What's your name to face score?

Well I managed 6 Gareth. However last year I was at the NPG with my daughter and her impossibly tall and annoyingly handsome boyfriend who, although 35 years younger than me, effortlessly named virtually all of them. It was both humbling and galling in equal measure. What's worse is that he is a thoroughly delightful chap so it is very difficult to be cross with him :hypocrite:

Although this is the first time anyone has posted the main picture we have seen a number of the individual studies that he did before painting the big picture and they are also superb.

David

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neverforget

Nearly same as me, but I think Smuts, not Botha

I`ve got Botha as third from the left. I`m thinking you have Smuts as second from the left?

After looking again, I think it could be Byng stood in front of Rawlinson.

It`s a great picture anyway. I can`t resist another look.

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neverforget

David, I`m stumped on your man. Any chance of a little clue, please? And by the way, hats off for all your efforts with the stats etc. :thumbsup:

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David Ridgus

Prince Lichnowsky? German Ambassador to the Court of St James.

Ron

Correct Ron. The picture is always captioned something like "The picture of despair" and is said to show the Prince walking through St. James's Park having just left the Foreign Office after hearing of the ultimatum to Germany. However I wonder what the evidence is that it was taken then and not just some other time he was taking a stroll in London. I hope it's true though because I put the picture right up there with "the lamps are going out..." as capturing the moment of realisation that the unthinkable was about to happen.

More July Crisis folk to come

David

I'd give that book the boot, if I were you !

:w00t::w00t:

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neverforget

Correct Ron. The picture is always captioned something like "The picture of despair" and is said to show the Prince walking through St. James's Park having just left the Foreign Office after hearing of the ultimatum to Germany. However I wonder what the evidence is that it was taken then and not just some other time he was taking a stroll in London. I hope it's true though because I put the picture right up there with "the lamps are going out..." as capturing the moment of realisation that the unthinkable was about to happen.

More July Crisis folk to come

David

:w00t::w00t:

Having now learned of the alleged background to the picture, it certainly seems to depict a certain air does it not? I could well believe the story behind it, but doubt that the photographer realised the significance at the time.

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neverforget

I think that might be Robertson, standing behind French.

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David Ridgus

Now I think this is a tricky one amongst the July Crisis folk:

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David

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Uncle George

I think that might be Robertson, standing behind French.

Yes, he was one of my 4.

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Uncle George

Now I think this is a tricky one amongst the July Crisis folk:

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David

Belgian PM Charles de Broqueville

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Ghazala

attachicon.gifField Marshals and Generals.jpgI have an alternative variation on a theme. How many of these Field Marshals and Generals can you name without diving in to the extensive library? There are 22 in total in the painting by Sargent and 10 of them are Field Marshals. I managed to guess at 14 of the names but when it came to putting names to faces I got a miserable 5. What's your name to face score?

The man with the sword, 5th from right has to be TEL's boss, General Allenby.

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David Ridgus

Belgian PM Charles de Broqueville

Afraid not Uncle George. My chap is another diplomat

David

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Gareth Davies

Sorry not to reply sooner, and not individually. I think my post #47 was largely rhetorical to make the point (to myself!) that SD identified, many of the subjects are instantly known by either name or face but putting the two together without using the EL is often quite hard.I also posted it because I think it is a cracking painting and I saw it used in a presentation last week.

The full list of names is here: http://www.jssgallery.org/paintings/10089.htm

I think SD claim of 9 is the best score, just pipping neverforget's 8. Thank goodness David's future son in law doesn't inhabit this thread as there would be no hope for mere mortals if he did. And well done Ghazala for yet another TEL link.

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